1. We will be in Read Only mode (no new threads, replies, registration) starting at 9:00 EDT for a number of hours as we migrate the forums to upgraded software.

Tying unused pins on CMOS inverter

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by NomadAU, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. NomadAU

    Thread Starter Active Member

    Jul 21, 2012

    I've got a circuit that uses 2 of the 6 inverters on a CMOS 4069 chip. I had read that it was a bad idea to leave unused pins floating, so without doing much research, I decided to tie all of the unused input and output pins to ground....and this doesn't seem to have been a very good idea. I did notice that I was pulling around double the expected current through the circuit with this arrangement...and then found that the IC had been totalled :mad:

    So, question is, which pins should I tie? Now that I've given it a bit more thought, I am thinking of just grounding all of the unused input pins, and leaving the outputs floating.

    Is this a reasonable solution?
  2. tshuck

    Well-Known Member

    Oct 18, 2012
    Never tie the outputs to ground! Simply don't connect your outputs if you don't need them, but tie your inputs to ground...
    NomadAU likes this.
  3. crutschow


    Mar 14, 2008
    If you think about it, you are shorting the outputs to ground. So if the inputs are also shorted to ground, the the outputs are trying to go high but can't. So they are all outputting their maximum current into a short. Makes for excessive supply current and enough power dissipation to zap the chip.
  4. ScottWang


    Aug 23, 2012
    You can check the internal structure of CD4069 on page 1, and tie the input to Hi or Low to see what's going on.
  5. wmodavis

    Distinguished Member

    Oct 23, 2010
    It is the correct solution to tie only the inputs to common. There are many ways to learn things. You picked one that will likely fix what you learned in your mind permanently.
  6. sheldons

    Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2011
    connect your unused inputs either to ground or supply using a 1k-10k resistor.....never your outputs .....