Super Fast Battery Charger?...

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cjdelphi

Joined Mar 26, 2009
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I'm talking about 1.2v AA/AAA cells. (Rechargeable and somewhat None Rechargables too)

What's the limiting factor in charging? Would it not be fair to say Heat? put too much current through the cell causing it to heat up and explode? So would it be fair say if we could remove the heat then you could charge a battery a lot faster?

How about a Peltier Device, have a couple of molded metal tubes connected to the Peltier Device, the molded metal tubes are connected to the Peltier device, the heat side get's a nice good heatsink, pop the A cells into the tubes, some kind of thermistor to monitor the temp of the battery cells, once it's sufficiently cooled down start pumping the current into the cells...

Would this not work? Even charging none rechargeable cells at a lower current too I should imagine?
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
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Primary cells, like alkaline, carbon-zinc, etc., cannot be recharged. Once discharged, they should be properly disposed of. If you attempt to charge a primary battery, you will likely cause the casing of the battery to rupture forcefully.

Attempting to charge cells at a rate faster than recommended will result in increased internal power dissipation as heat, which will increase the chemical activity. While cooling the casing of the battery will help with the power dissipation, you may wind up causing thermal stress due to the differential in temperature from the middle of the package to the outer case.

High temperatures are generally not good for batteries; it leads to increased chemical activity. The greater the chemical activity, the sooner the chemicals are depleted.
 

wirednuts

Joined Nov 13, 2011
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i think in non-rechargeable batteries, once depleted the chemistry inside has changed and can never be brought back. rechargeable batteries are formulated to stay stable through charges and discharges.
 

bountyhunter

Joined Sep 7, 2009
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I'm talking about 1.2v AA/AAA cells. (Rechargeable and somewhat None Rechargables too)

What's the limiting factor in charging? Would it not be fair to say Heat? put too much current through the cell causing it to heat up and explode?
NI-MH cells have an exothermic charge reaction which causes heating. NI-CD cells have an endothermic reaction which cools slightly during charging, until the cell reaches full charge and then it starts heating up.All cells build up internal gas which can blow out the vent when overcharged.

The only way to safely fast charge them is to accurately detect full charge point, not a trivial task and NI-MH are particularly tricky.

Don't even try fast charging lithium cells.
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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You can get some ICs that are tailored to charge NIMH batteries. Try Google and NIMH charger IC. Some of them even have a temprature sensor input. However for long battery life. Follow the battery manufacturer advice on charging current.
 

bountyhunter

Joined Sep 7, 2009
2,512
You can get some ICs that are tailored to charge NIMH batteries. Try Google and NIMH charger IC. Some of them even have a temprature sensor input. However for long battery life. Follow the battery manufacturer advice on charging current.
MAXIM used to make the best selection of those.
 
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