thanx
i have just ordered my new pic
but since i have more 4017 and uln2803 im still going to try to use the pics that i already have im kinda good with a solder iron i have already managed to attach the capacitor to the middle legs
i can still program them if the pic is already installed in the circuit ?
You can bend every other pin up to help separate them enough to solder them without touching another pin. You will also want to wait a few min between pins to let the chip cool.