Quick question about transformer

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biscuitownz

Joined Aug 9, 2013
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So I have a toroidal transformer that has 2 120v primary and 1 120v secondary.

I was wondering if I put the primary coils in series with 120vac as the source so each primary coil will technically see 60vac, if I do this will the secondary voltage output be lowered?
 

ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi,
Ensure that the End of one of the 120Vac primary windings is connected to the Start of the other 120Vac primary winding.
With 120Vac applied to the free ends of these two series windings there should be 60Vac across the secondary.
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biscuitownz

Joined Aug 9, 2013
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hi,
Ensure that the End of one of the 120Vac primary windings is connected to the Start of the other 120Vac primary winding.
With 120Vac applied to the free ends of these two series windings there should be 60Vac across the secondary.
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Yes, thank you! I was aware that if it wasn't connected from one end to the start of the other it would essentially be in parallel. :D
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Yes, thank you! I was aware that if it wasn't connected from one end to the start of the other it would essentially be in parallel. :D
No. That is not how to make a parallel connection.
With two primary windings there are four ways you can connect them:

1) series connection in phase
2) series connection out of phase
3) parallel connection in phase
4) parallel connection out of phase

What the previous posts are saying is make sure your connections are in phase.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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(4) Parallel connection out of phase will be accompanied by a bang and having to replace the input fuse.
Your VA rating will be reduced slightly by series 120v windings on 120v supply.
The other more efficient way is to parallel the windings on 120v and remove secondary winding until voltage is desired level, approx 2turns/volt.
Max.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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To perform the test safely, if you not sure about the phasing, put a 110V incandescent bulb in series with the primary winding. If the connection is correct, the lamp will glow weakly or not at all and you will measure 60Vac at the secondary. If the connection is incorrect the lamp will light brightly.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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Another simple test is to connect an end of each windings, power the other end of One winding, measure from unconnected end to the powered end of the first winding, the result should be near zero, if 120v then swap either pair.
Max.
 

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biscuitownz

Joined Aug 9, 2013
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Well I tried connecting it today but the secondary coil isn't giving me any power for some reason. I've tried one primary then the other, and also parallel/series. All of those combos don't give me any output from the sec coil.

Here are some pics of it:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ieEAAMXQlgtSxBzQ/$_57.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/mJAAAOxycmBSxBzY/$_57.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/c4QAAOxy4dNSxBzI/$_57.JPG

This is the same toroidal that I have: http://www.fvstore.com/Powertronix-...al-Isolation-Transformer-MIU-500/p733295.html

This is the manufacture's website http://www.powertronix.com/medical_isolation.php### I can't seem to find a PDF or anything of that kind to get more information on it.
 
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MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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No offence intended but it would appear that you lack the necessary knowledge and experience to be able to work safely with AC mains transformers. Get someone with the proper credentials to help you or post your questions and circuit diagrams here before turning on the power switch.
 

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biscuitownz

Joined Aug 9, 2013
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No offence intended but it would appear that you lack the necessary knowledge and experience to be able to work safely with AC mains transformers. Get someone with the proper credentials to help you or post your questions and circuit diagrams here before turning on the power switch.
I was building this.. :(

 
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