Question about low resistance

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
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Actually, no. The whole reason behind using a circular blade was because of the space where I needed to cut/modify. A reciprocating saw would not have fit. Not even a small jig-saw. Even cutting the material away by hand would have been next to impossible. I MIGHT have been able to use a hammer and chisel, but the plastic was pretty tough. I KNOW - I KNOW, "Plastic". Even still, chiseling out the area might have fractured the body and rendered the whole thing useless.
An oscillating saw, not a reciprocating saw. This is the one I have:

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/18v-oscillating-multi-tools-gop18v-28n-146806-p/

And you can use this blade:

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/bo...ti-tool-cutting-accessories-osl312t-142612-p/

The blade can be rotated into any orientation in steps of a few degrees.
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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@Yaakov; Yeah, that might have worked. But I went with what I had. But I will keep that in mind for future needs - if ever. I don't intend to use that scary setup again. Believe me when I say I was 1000% conscious of the spinning blade and where my hands were AT ALL TIMES!

I guess the point here is to not be foolish with power tools. The proper tool with the proper blade WITH the proper safety gear is the right way to "do it". For the TS needs, a diamond blade will cut ceramic. Use of either a face mask or at the very least googles, AND dust protection. The dust mask I use has two filters at the end of two hoses. I hang the hoses behind my back so 1) the mask doesn't become involved in my workpiece, and 2) the intake of the mask is not directly in the most concentrated airborne dust. I generally use safety glasses, as a face shield tends to collect a lot of dust and become difficult to see through. For reasons I don't quite know, the goggles don't attract as much dust. But the BEST way to deal with the dust is to use dust extraction. Along with all other safety gear; face shield, dust mask, and even gloves. And don't use the grinder without the safety shield on it.
 

BobaMosfet

Joined Jul 1, 2009
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The whole point to this thread is how to cut ceramics using an angle grinder. I've used my angle grinder to cut many a ceramic tile. Even cut stone and brick using a diamond saw blade such as I linked. And the point made earlier, USE A DUST MASK!

[edit] I guess the TRUE point to this thread is whether the motor on this grinder is safe to use. The consensus is "Yes, it is safe to use." It's actually a side point about cutting ceramics.
It's best to use a tile-cutting saw that also keeps the tile wet while cutting.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
10,050
I'd hate to see what happens when the TS tries one of those on ceramics. On the other hand - - - .
My reply was to Les not the TS. I have one of those somewhere in my work area, only used it for a few seconds and that was enough to scare me. Not a toy.
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
9,744
It's best to use a tile-cutting saw that also keeps the tile wet while cutting.
True. But why buy (or rent) a tile saw when for less cash you can own a diamond blade. OK, wet is better for keeping the work piece cool AND for minimizing airborn dust. If you were in the business then go with wet sawing. They have tile snappers too, you score them just like you score glass, then apply a little bending pressure and the tile will snap in a straight line. Nice, but what do you do when you want to cope around a soil pipe in a bathroom? Or a shower faucet? With my own blade I've been able to accomplish ALL those odd cuts. As for piercing for a pipe - you can get a diamond drill. Also good for cutting through granite countertops for adding a drinking water system. Or soap dispenser. Or a pop up sprayer to surprise someone with a sudden unexpected shower.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Those in the picture look a lot like the ones used by firefighters to gain access for firefighting or to cut things open to rescue trapped people and save lives. NEITHER of those operations demands a nice smooth cut. The wheels shown are in fact chain saw chains wrapped onto supports. They will NOT make a nice cut.
To cut ceramics use either a diamond blade or a cut-off abrasive wheel. And go slowly with lots of water coolant. AND really, that disk grinder will do a fair job cutting ceramics. You can even cut an enameled cast iron bathtub with the cutoff wheel on the device in post#1. Not fast, but effective.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
9,237
An oscillating saw, not a reciprocating saw. This is the one I have:

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/18v-oscillating-multi-tools-gop18v-28n-146806-p/

And you can use this blade:

https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/bo...ti-tool-cutting-accessories-osl312t-142612-p/

The blade can be rotated into any orientation in steps of a few degrees.
Someone loaned me an oscillating saw. Said it was the perfect tool for what I was doing (trimming 1/4” ply on a set (as in theater) piece).

Damn if I could figure out how to use it! If I had someone to show me... But for a first time user the thing was definitely non-intuitive.

Or am I just dumb?
 
Oscillating saw. Got one of them too. The Fein Multimaster. Definately an odd beast. Really cool for sanding odd shapes and cutting drywall for electrical outlets.

Got some nice stainless blades for a reciprocating saw for cutting bones and meat. e.g. cut a ham slice from a shank section of a ham.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
10,050
Those in the picture look a lot like the ones used by firefighters to gain access for firefighting or to cut things open to rescue trapped people and save lives. NEITHER of those operations demands a nice smooth cut. The wheels shown are in fact chain saw chains wrapped onto supports. They will NOT make a nice cut.
Those are sold as wood sculpting tools, to remove large amounts of wood fast, before getting the knives and chisels involved. They suffer the same problem you have when using the tip of a chain saw to cut, kickback.

Also the thread started out asking about 'chain saws' but showing a picture of an 'angle grinder'. It wasn't until many posts in that ceramic tile came to the for front of the thread. My showing those was in response and as a joke to Les, after he said an angle grinder was a bad choice to cut trees like a chain saw. They never were intended to be shown or used to cut ceramic tile! That, ceramic tile, didn't come out until after the pictures were posted.
 
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SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Angle grinders (electric and pneumatic) are usually high-speed tools typically used for metalworking. Stone, composite disc, and wire brush "wheels" are typically used in them. They tend to get dropped and tossed about and that can damage the "wheel" attached. Full face shields are recommended/required when used as when the damaged "wheel" spins up to max RPM it can fly apart. Not something you want hitting your face at high velocity. The safety guard is usually the first thing removed/damaged from the tool. Not a good idea. Removing the guard to mount oversized "wheels" also a very bad idea. The larger wheel obtains a much higher angular velocity than it was designed for causing them to disintegrate and fly apart sending out high-velocity shards. The larger "wheels" are designed for lower RPM tools and should never be used with the high-speed angle grinder. FWIW
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Angle grinders (electric and pneumatic) are usually high-speed tools typically used for metalworking. Stone, composite disc, and wire brush "wheels" are typically used in them. They tend to get dropped and tossed about and that can damage the "wheel" attached. Full face shields are recommended/required when used as when the damaged "wheel" spins up to max RPM it can fly apart. Not something you want hitting your face at high velocity. The safety guard is usually the first thing removed/damaged from the tool. Not a good idea. Removing the guard to mount oversized "wheels" also a very bad idea. The larger wheel obtains a much higher angular velocity than it was designed for causing them to disintegrate and fly apart sending out high-velocity shards. The larger "wheels" are designed for lower RPM tools and should never be used with the high-speed angle grinder. FWIW
I ALWAYS regard an abrasive wheel as subject to coming apart at high speed and thus i ALWAYS stay out of the "line of fire" of where the chunks would fly. But good news, I have not had one come apart yet. Of course I do regard the disks as fragile and treat them accordingly. Even that skinny cut off disk in a Dremel grinder can come apart and be dangerous. Thus caution is always smart, and staying out of line is a precaution to be followed.
 

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
10,237
Someone loaned me an oscillating saw. Said it was the perfect tool for what I was doing (trimming 1/4” ply on a set (as in theater) piece).

Damn if I could figure out how to use it! If I had someone to show me... But for a first time user the thing was definitely non-intuitive.

Or am I just dumb?
As far as I can tell you are particularly undumb. The oscillating saw is quite different from most powered cutting tools and take some practice and possibly a few hints to use effectively. In some cases it’s really a problem solver.

It can do plunge cuts, flush cuts, and get into weird places. It’s a little like and electric ryouba (Japanese pull saw) but the handle doesn’t have to move, so it can be fit into all sorts of spots.
 
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