Quantification of Electrostatic Charge

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Did you ever consider the fact that we do not quantify Electrostatic Charge?

What would happen if we did?
Well you get a UFT (Unified Field Theory)
If we quantify Electrostatic Charge as fundamental to the electron and not a force due to electron accumulation...a simple but profound difference...then you find that EM charge holds the nucleus together.

The missing gluon is EM...the missing quantification is ES.
According to the Aether Physics Model, the strong force mediates by a second type of charge, which we properly call electromagnetic charge. The electromagnetic charge is quantifiably different from electrostatic charge in geometry, spin, and magnitude. When protons and neutrons bind, the toroidal geometry alters to a spherical geometry, thus invoking the Coulomb constant as the force mediator constant. The strong charge, although capable of variations in force magnitude, always maintains a constant mass to electromagnetic charge ratio. From these newly discovered physics principles, the Aether Physics Model properly computes the relative strengths of the forces.

Alternative Science
The Aether Physics Model (APM) is true physics. Many of the same physics laws from the Standard Model (SM) carry over to the Aether Physics Model. However, the Aether Physics Model bases on two types of quantifiable quantum charges. The SM bases upon a single type of quantifiable quantum charge; commonly called the elementary charge. Not only does the APM recognize two types of charges, but the notations of charge dimensions is such that charge is always squared relative to a single dimension of mass. These are fundamental differences, and as such, the Aether Physics Model is considered to be Alternative Science. It is not an alternative to science, but a completely new foundation to base science on.

Due to charge geometry, the Weak Nuclear Force is the geometric difference between EM charge and ES charge in a quantum spin sense. So the Weak Nuclear Force is really not a force.
The weak interaction is the proportion of the elementary charge to the strong charge. The weak interaction is equal to 8pi times the fine structure of the electron
In this model, there are only three forces

The Aether Physics Model is simple and profound>
It uses quantum constants to construct the universe via SI units, which could have been done back in 1935!

The universe is made of electrons and protons not kilograms and joules.

The Aether Physics Model is dependent on only several foundational quantum constants
Quantum length equals Compton Wavelength.
Quantum frequency equals speed of light divided by quantum length.
The reciprocal of quantum frequency will give quantum time.
Coulombs Constant
Planck Length
Gravity Constant
Electron Mass
Proton Mass

From the dimensions of length, frequency, mass, charge, and spherical geometry come Aether, primary angular momentum, and all other units of dimensions. According to the Aether Physics Model, the dimensions of discrete natural units (quanta) are length, frequency, mass, charge and spherical geometry. Dimension is the fundamental attribute of measurement, but is not itself measurable. Absolute dimension is a quality of reality, seemingly arising from the ultimate Source of all existence. When quantity is associated with dimension, then the two together form a measurement.

Through the lack of coherent understanding of dimensions and units, it has become standard practice to view measurements as units. For example, the kilogram defines a unit of mass. It would be far more coherent if the kilogram defined a measurement of mass, with the definition of “unit” reserved for compound dimensions. The concepts of measurement and units are quite different from one another. Using the same word to define two different concepts easily leads to confusion.

The Aether unit in the quantum universe represents a specific space that oscillates at a specific rate between forward and backward time. The specific space produces the volume of Compton wavelength cubed. While the structure of the Aether unit is not a cube, it has the same effect as a cube for mathematical purposes. Aether resolves to cubic appearance due to the 4pi^2 constant. The speed of light is explained simply in the Aether physics model as the quantum distance time to quantum frequency. Since Aether encapsulates onta, the quantum parameters of Aether limit the speed of onta. The maximum speed at which any onn can move is one quantum distance times to quantum frequency. But for the onta to move, the encapsulating Aether must displaces surrounding Aether. This does not mean higher frequencies or shorter lengths cannot exist in the universe. Wave interference patterns can appear as shorter lengths or higher frequencies. However, the production of such apparent lengths and frequencies would require the interference of two or more sources. The limitation imposed by the speed of light does not apply to the movement of Aether units amongst themselves if the Aether units vibrate. Therefore it is quite possible to send faster than light communications by directly modulating Aether units, rather than sending photons through space or electrons through conductors. The Aether units can modulate via the strong force by magnetic pulses. Almost all units in the Aether physics model express in terms of frequency rather than time. In each quantum movement an Aether unit is actually moving in the forward time direction and and then in the backward time direction, oscillating a full cycle at the quantum frequency. For whatever reason, onta only exist in the forward time direction. Onta do not experience the backward time direction, therefore the larger structures made from onta do not experience the backward time direction because onta do not experience a backward time direction they appear to have a property called ½ spin. Time is a series of forward time half-cycles. To our perception, however, forward time appears to be uniformly linear.
Aether is a Rotating Magnetic Dielectric Field with a Quantum Spin of 2.

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Discussion of the Forces
Written by David Thomson Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:27
The electrostatic force, according to the Aether Physics Model, is the same as the static “electromagnetic force” in the Standard Model. In the Aether Physics Model, the electrostatic charge shows specifically to have spherical angle and one-spin. Although charge dimensions do not have inherent length, their distributed nature allows for distributed existence on surfaces. A positive and negative electrostatic charge resides separately in each half of the Aether unit, creating the Aether electrostatic dipole

In addition to an electrostatic dipole, the Aether unit also has four spin positions; one each for the electron, antiproton, proton, and positron. When primary angular momentum inhabits any spin position, it interacts with the conductance of the Aether to produce electromagnetic charge. The electromagnetic charge has tubular loxodrome geometry and in five dimensions of space-resonance (three dimensions of length and two dimensions of frequency). The two dimensions of frequency in space-resonance are the frequency of forward/backward time and the frequency of right/left spin direction.

To our four dimensional space-time perspective, the electromagnetic charge has tubular cardioid geometry (the cardioid is seen when looking down the z axis, or poles), which has surface area mathematically equivalent to toroidal geometry. Since the angular momentum producing the electromagnetic charge spins only in the forward direction of time, and either the right or left spin direction, the electromagnetic charge of each spin position has half-spin. The electromagnetic charge produces north and south magnetic poles, creating the magnetic dipole of the subatomic particle.

Compared to the scanned surface of the electromagnetic charge, the ligamen circulatus (LC) that contains the very small mass of the subatomic particle, appears as being orthogonal to the electromagnetic charge.

The electromagnetic charge is the carrier of the strong force, which binds the subatomic particles in an atomic nucleus. In the Aether Physics Model, quarks are not small particles composing protons and neutrons, but rather quarks are the debris of broken subatomic particles. The appearance of broken subatomic particles occurs when the Aether unit collapses (due to excessive stress and collisions) and the encapsulated angular momentum comprising visible matter spills back to the sea of angular momentum.

Due to the movement of the LC, when two protons or two neutrons magnetically bind together, their toroidal geometries shrink in their major radius and expand in their minor radius, which results in spherical geometry. While the subatomic particle is in its free state, the Aether unit force-constant prevails over the toroidal geometry, but as two subatomic particles bind, the geometry shifts to spherical, and the Coulomb constant prevails as the force mediator constant. Therefore, the strong force can appear to have variable strength during the binding and unbinding processes.

In the APM, the neutron quantifies as a bound electron and proton, which captures a neutrino angular mometum between the two subatomic particles. The captured angular momentum contributes to the total angular momentum of the neutron while it is bound. When the electron and proton bind in a neutron, their north magnetic poles are facing each other, thus there is magnetic repulsion fighting against electrostatic attraction. The magnetic moments of the electron and proton in a neutron cause the distance between the electron and proton to vary in length, as well as the angle between strong charges to vary. When the two magnetic moments synchronize such that the electron and proton push against each other with maximum effect, the distances between the electron and proton separate far enough for the electrostatic bond to break. The ratio of the electrostatic charge to electromagnetic charge is the so-called “weak force,” or weak interaction. The relative strength of the force between the electrostatic and electromagnetic charges will vary depending upon distance, charge angles, and charge geometry; hence, the weak interaction will have a great range of values, depending on the conditions.


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The quantum level, has five dimensions, length, frequency, mass, charge, spherical geometry. Dimensions increase in complexity as the orders of reality become more complex. The key to understanding the quantum level of existence lies in more precise and simple definitions of the terms “dimension”, “measurement” and “unit”. There are four fundamental dimensions in the MKS system of measurement: mass, charge, length and frequency. This very example of mismatching terms shows the classical mess of modern theory.

It is from the fundamental dimensions that units are constructed. The unit of area is equel to length dimension squared. The unit of volume is equal to length dimension cube. A unit of volume therefore has three dimensions of length.

Lq^3 = volm
However, there are also three dimensions in a unit of momentum. Mass times length times frequency.
m(e) X Lq X Fq = momt

So it is more accurate to call “3-D” objects Volumetric than three dimensional. Technically, an object with three dimensions of length, is three dimensional, but three dimensions need not mean three dimensions of length.

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What is mass?

Mass is merely a dimension. Of itself, it has no material existence, although it is one of the defining qualities of the material objects. In a weightless environment mass does not change to zero. When mass is a near large planet, it does not become greater. When an object with mass is accelerated to near the speed of light, it does not increase mass. There is mass in resistance, there is mass in potential, there is mass in energy, there is mass in angular momentum. It is all the same mass, but manifested differently. It might help to realize that there is time in units too. There is time in resistance, there is time in potential, there is time in energy, and there is time in angular momentum. You can perceive time as change, but you cannot isolate time from a unit. You can perceive mass as inertia and length as distance, but you cannot separate the dimensions of mass and length from units. In the same way, you cannot remove the bricks from a brick building without also removing the building.

Once we stop thinking of mass as equal to matter, and realize that mass is neither physical nor is it something convertible, then it becomes easier to see what mass really is and how mass behaves. You cannot truly weigh mass, but you can weigh something that has mass. You cannot make mass turn into energy. The whole issue about converting energy from mass clearly reveals itself when we realize the indestructible and unchangeable nature of dimensions. You cannot convert mass, length, time, or charge. They are absolutes. Mass is always mass. Mass is only a dimension.

Energy is a unit, mass is a dimension
E is composed of the dimensions of mass, length, frequency.
E = M X L^2 X F^2

When it comes down to the truth to the truth of it, mass is a dimension while energy is a unit made up of three dimensions.

In SR, mass converts to energy as an object approaches the speed of light. If this were true, then instead of having an infinite mass as the theory proposes a spaceship should be mass-less at the speed of light. However, if the spaceship were mass-less at the speed of light, then it would have no energy because the mass is zero. No double the die hard relativists will come forth with arguments that there is relativistic mass, which is different from rest mass.

Mass is ultimately only a dimension. Mass is not equal to matter or energy. Mass does not rest and does not move as an independent entity. There is no such "thing" as mass that can be converted to energy, of which energy is merely a unit

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Conductance of the Aether and Strong Charge
The Aether conductance constant (Cd) shows to be a factor of Coulomb’s constant and its relationship to the other known constants of the “vacuum”.
Cd = kc X /c X μ0 Where = Vacuum permittivity, also called permittivity of free space or the electric constant is the ratio D/E in free space.
μ0 is the magnetic constant.

Cd = 2.112 X 10^-4 (sec X coul^2/kg X m2)

scant literature exists describing the conductance of the Aether (vacuum, free space, quantum foam), and modern physics. Conductance is the measure of a materials ability to conduct electric charge. Electrons do conduct through the Aether, as observed when electrons travel in the space between the Sun and the Earth. Electrons also pass through Aether in a vacuum tube. The conductance constant is a specific measure of the Aether's ability to conduct strong charge.

In quantum measurements, the conductance constant notates as
Cd = e emax^2/m(e) X Lq^2 X Fq

Conductance of the Aether is also equal to
Cd = e emax^2/h

The variable h is Planck’s constant and represents the angular momentum of the electron. Planck’s constant generally defines in modern physics as “the constant of proportionality relating the energy of a photon to the frequency of that photon.” The Standard Model has missed the fact that Planck’s constant is actually the quantification of the electron.
h = 6.626 X 10^-34 kg X m^2/sec

Strong charge then calculates as

hXCd = e emax^2
e emax^2 = 1.400 X 10^-37 coul^2

Where e emax^2 is the strong charge. The strong charge, like the electrostatic charge, is distributed. The strong force carrier, in the Aether Physics Model is the electromagnetic charge, or strong charge. The strong charge quantifies as the angular momentum of the onn time to the conductance of the Aether. The angular momentum of the proton in the Aether Physics Model is similar to the angular momentum of the electron, with the exception that it calculates with the mass of the proton. Thus, the strong charge of the proton is equal to
e pmax^2 = h(p) X Cd

The strong force of the proton calculates using the strong force law, which is similar to that of the electrostatic force law and the gravitational law. As in the case of the electrostatic law, the product of two strong charges calculates from a single dimension of each charge. Since the binding force causes the protons and neutrons to have large “small radii” and small “large radii” the on to appear spherical. Thus, the Coulomb constant instead of the Aether unit constant is the force mediator.
kc (e pmax X e pmax/Lq^2) = F

The strong force of the neutron is similarly calculated.
The strong force law for free protons and free neutrons would probably integrate the Aether unit constant with the Coulomb constant. This is because free protons and free neutrons are more toroidal in shape. However, once they bind, there shape becomes spherical.
The total nuclear binding force is the sum of all force acting upon onta in an atomic nucleus. The total force acting upon a single neutron at one quantum length, even though there are no other neutrons and protons nearby is
Au (e nmax^2/Lq^2) = 1.839 X 10^3 forc

Aether conductance is also equal to other expressions of strong charge to primary angular momentum.

Cd = e pmax^2/h(p)
Cd = e a^2/h(a)

Where h(p) and h(a) are the angular momentum of the proton and Aether,
and e pmax^2 and e a^2 are the strong charge of the proton and Aether
This is just one of many demonstrations of the exact mass to strong charge ratio, which is consistent throughout the universe. Were ever strong charge appears, it is always exactly proportional to the mass within the angular momentum that produces it, and therefore it is quantum.

Unlike electrostatic charge, each onn has a strong charge value proportional to its mass. This is because the strong charge depends on the angular momentum of the onn, and the Aether length and frequency dimensions are quantum measurements.
Strong charge, notates as
e emax^2 for the electron
e pmax^2 for the proton
e nmax^2 for the neutron

The Standard Model of particle physics does not recognize conductance as a essential constant. This might prompt want to ask, why bother? As showing in the Aether Physics Model, the conductance constant is essential for understanding the strong charge of the onta. The understanding of strong charge in turn reveals the relationship of the strong nuclear force, Van der Waals force, Casimir force, plasmas, and other phenomena.

An essential use of the conductance constant appears in the strong charge equation.
e emax^2 = h X Cd
The same form of equation holds for any onn with angular momentum. The angular momentum of the proton in the Aether Physics Model is similar to the angular momentum of the electron, with the exception that it calculates with the mass of the proton.

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Weak Interaction
The proportion of the electrostatic charge to strong charge, the sequel to 8pi times the fine structure of the onn.

e^2/e emax^2 = 8pi e

The significance of this proportion is that it represents the weak interaction of the onn.
Because each onn has its own strong charge, it will also have its own weak interaction constant.

e^2/e pmax^2 = 8pi p
e^2/e nmax^2 = 8pi n

These equations represent the unified charge equations for each onn. Taken together these equations are the basis for mathematically correct Unified Field Theory. The Aether Physics Model shows that the weak interaction is merely the proportion of the electrostatic force to the strong force. When the relative strengths of distributed charge carriers or analyze, we find electrostatic charge to be 10,000 times weaker than the electromagnetic charge. However, since the Standard Model views charge in single dimension, it appears is only 100 times weaker.

The unified charge equations dictate a general geometry for the onta. Electrostatic charge has a solid angle of 1, while the strong charge has a solid angle of a steradian. The strong charge has a solid angle equal to 1/4pi of the spherical electrostatic charge. What this means is that the distribution of the electrostatic charge is spherical, where is the distribution of the strong charge is 1/4pi of an equivalent strong charge, 1-spin sphere.

Again, the electrostatic charge has 1 spin due to its relation to the Aether spherical distributed frequency. The strong charge has 1/2 spin, due to the 1/2 spin of the angular momentum, so multiplying ½ spin by 2 converts ½ spin to 1 spin. Now multiplying the steradian solid angle of strong charge by 4pi converts the steradian solid angle of the strong charge to a solid angle sphere.

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Kaluza - Klein Five Dimensional Model -
In the standard model of particle physics, particles or points, moving through space, tracing out a “World Line”. To take into account the different interactions observed, one has to provide particles with additional degrees of freedom beyond position and velocity, including mass, electric charge, color charge and spin. In string theory, all particle types are replaced by a single fundamental building block called a string.

The goal here is to try to visualize a basic string-like theory as developed by Kaluza - Klein. Kaluza first developed this method in 1919. In his original work it was shown that if we start with a theory of general relativity and five-space time dimension's and then curl up one of the dimension's into a circle we end up with a four dimensional theory of general relativity plus electromagnetism. If we assume that the electron has a degree of freedom corresponding to a point on a circle and that this point is free to very on the circle as we move around in space time, we find that the theory must contain the photon and that the electron obeys the equations of motion of electromagnetism. In 1926 Oskar Klein extended this idea. Instead of assuming total Independence of the extra dimension, he assumed it to be compact. This means the fifth dimension would have the topology of a circle with the radius of the order of the Planck length. The Kaluza Klein mechanism simply gives a geometric explanation for the circle. It comes from an actual fifth dimension that has been curled up.

The object represents a superimposition of three objects if viewed in 3-D slices. A helix in the w-x-z coordinates, a sine wave in the x-y-z coordinates, and a circle in the w-x-y coordinates. Being viewed in these three-dimensional slices the object can be defined as both open and close-ended. We will define the four dimensional object as representing light. Maxwell’s wave theory will be shown to be defined by the sine wave into x-y-z coordinates, while the quantum nature of light will be defined by the helix’s end points rotating on the circle in the w-x-y coordinates.

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The main thing to realize is that the Electrostatic field is not quantified in the standard model. There is no unification with the so called electroweak force as the Higgs fudge factor will eventually prove to be as impossible as the so called unification.

The gluon is not going to be found either.

Particle physics and the four force model is at an impass. With no Higgs boson, it is back to the drawing board. Meanwhile Dave Thompson has created a Unified Force Model that is able to predict the electron binding energy of all atomic elements. Lets look at the basics in a nutshell.

First we quantify ES Charge.
The strong force is the result of EM Charge.
The proportional relationship between ES and EM charge is the weak force.
Gravity is the third force.

There are five dimensions.
Spherical Geometry

The aether unit is a two spin rotating magnetic-dielectric field. This encapsulates primary angular momentum. The primary angular momentum is a circular string that revolves within the ES charged sphere of the aether unit in the luxodrome pattern. The string aquires mass and EM charge as it propagates. EM charge is therefore different for each subatomic unit, and that is why the proton has a different EM charge then the electron while they both share the same ES charge. Quantum spin is an essential factor in matter. We start with this primary angular momentum as the building block of sub atomic units. Since each sub atomic unit has a charge and a quantum spin of 1/2, we must deal with this when we look at the constants of the universe. The constants are the key to the puzzle. The relationship of the constants to the solving of the puzzle is to see them for what they are, fundamental quantum structure limits. The quantum struture of the electron and the proton is that of two distributed charges with specific spheroid and toroid geometry. The structure of the aether unit is derived from Coulombs constant and the angular momentum is derived from the planck constant and the model evolves in this fashion. Thats it in a nuts shell.


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Discussion of the Forces
Written by David Thomson Wednesday, 30 December 2009 20:27
Please provide us with references to reputable scientific journals in which this work is published. If this work is not published in the mainstream scientific literature, then we have no interest in it here.

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There is a pattern to all forms. The relationship of the 2 spin rotating magnetic field of the Aether Unit with respect to the 1/2 spin electron and proton it is easy to recognize the pattern and to determine the source of all patterns, in essence the Harmonic Code.

The product of the proton and electron spin position numbers equal an even interval of 1/4. The curvature of the Aether implies that the quarter phase refers to a cycle. The implication is that a full Aether Cycle consists of 5 Aether Units. Electron and proton spin positions, which determine the structure of the material world, have both a phi and PHI component.
It is here from the Aether we learn something very telling. When 5 Aether Units make up a cycle, the products PHI the Golden Ratio and phi its inverse both appear. This is both true and vitally important.

This explains why PHI and phi show up continually in the material world, where ever growth occurs and living forms appear. Growth occurs in cycles, therefore we would expect the cycle to reflect itself from the full Aether Cycle. Indeed it does.

PHI, Pi, e.
Aether is made of these Relationships. All material existance stems from these products.

Aether is very essential to all understanding and knowledge.
It goes beyond information. It is the Key to all Knowledge.

Important equations can be followed with a basic understanding of algebra. A single theory of angular momentum, encapsulated by a quantum Aether unit, explains the structure of quantum existence.
The ontology of the APM begins with the proper understanding of dimensions and measurements and the understanding that Aether (a quantum rotating magnetic field) is equally as important as the matter that resides within it. From here, we can derive the force that gives birth to the Aether and maintains the existence of subatomic particles. The theory implies the Aether has the qualities of reciprocal mass and charge in addition to the dimensions of length and time. Aether is also the source of curved geometry as expressed by Albert Einstein in his General Relativity Theory. Albert Einstein wrote a paper, which describes the Aether as a magnetic field.

The Aether Physics Model provides a new system of quantum measurements units, and is thoroughly explained and quantified in the text. The quantum measurements base upon quantum length (Compton wavelength), quantum frequency (speed of light divided by Compton wavelength), quantum masses (electron and proton masses), quantum charges (both electrostatic and electromagnetic charges), and the spherical constant (4p).

In the Aether Physics Model, quantum constants offer a new analysis tool for examining quantum processes. Each equation thus has real meaning for the real world. One important new constant from the Aether Physics Model is the derived conductance constant of the Aether, which is essential for calculating and understanding the nature of strong charge (electromagnetic charge).

The Aether Physics Model arose while David Thomson was investigating the work of Nikola Tesla. While testing Tesla coils, he noticed there were two distinct different manifestations of charges. After searching the existing scientific literature in vain for an explanation, he decided to re-examine the foundations of physics. Within three weeks he discovered a mathematically correct Unified Force Theory.

After setting up a lab in his home he set out to test some of his theories. Secrets of the Aether documents these experiments and provides the extensive, yet simple mathematics comprising the theory. At the core of his discovery is the observation that all charge is distributed. This leads to new fundamental physics insights, which the reader will find enlightening.
Please provide us with references to reputable scientific journals in which this work is published. If this work is not published in the mainstream scientific literature, then we have no interest in it here.
He's not listening, his same posts are all over the net. Google any statement and you'll see it's just copy and pate crapola. :mad:

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OOOO, you did an internet search of me and made a pearl drummer forum personality profile...how professional of you and what a good comeback.
Concerning the use of quotes.
I thought it was important to not plagerize.
I therefore always quote my sources.
The thought that I said nothing of my own, is a lie.
You never discredited a thing a said, just made an adhomin attack.

Electrostatic Charge is the missing quantification of the Standard Model.
Why here? What was wrong with the countless other forums you post on? Why the constant drivel of post after post? Do you have a question or just looking for a soapbox?

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More ad homin attacks, and I am going to get banned?
Like I said, Electrostatic Charge needs to be quantified.
You never said why it does not.
Your ad homin attacks show me you have no idea.


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