Problem with 4017 output :(

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Chapa3524

Joined Feb 19, 2012
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i'm using a 4017 counter in a circuit and one output (pin 5) is connected to 5 inputs of 5 ics. (one 74HC00, one 4052 , two 4026s and the enable pin of the same 4017 (pin 13)). when using it practically the voltage at the output pin 5 is set low. thus it doesn't work properly. could it be because fan out? i tried a opamp buffer bt it also doesn't work. :( would a 4050 buffer would do? does anyone know what could be done to solve this problem? thankyouu!!!
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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Try showing a schematic instead, they are the language of electronics. I am a little leary about the 7400 connection, not all logic families are compatible.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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I would suggest disconnecting all loads to U3 pin-5 and add them one at a time.
Why is it fed back to pin-13 (E)? Maybe this is the problem.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Or lacking an oscilloscope, use LEDs to look for counting on outputs 0-4. You should also see the carry-out go high. You didn't mention your frequency, or even the presence of a clock.
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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You have the pin 5 output of the 4017 driving the input and output of the 4050.
Therefore the 4050 is shorting the signal.
 

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Chapa3524

Joined Feb 19, 2012
11
thankyou all :)
actually the 4050 is not in the circuit. i figured out the problem it is due to the 7400 ic. what can be done to make the output of 4017 compatible with the input of 7400? also, the output of the mux (4052) is abt 1V less then the inputs. :( what could be the reason for that?
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Not all the ICs would be fried with 12V.
The 4000 series chips should be able to withstand +18V.
The 74HC00 would be suspect.
A 74C00 would have a better chance surviving +12V. In fact 74C00 will operative to +15V.
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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Your circuit does not have an old TTL 7400 IC that has a high input current. Instead it has a modern high-speed Cmos 74HC00 IC that has NO input current. A HUGE difference.

Your 4017 IC is ordinary Cmos and it cannot drive an old 7400 IC but drives a 74HC00 perfectly.
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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Your circuit does not have an old TTL 7400 IC that has a high input current. Instead it has a modern high-speed Cmos 74HC00 IC that has NO input current. A HUGE difference.

Your 4017 IC is ordinary Cmos and it cannot drive an old 7400 IC but drives a 74HC00 perfectly.

The maximum allowed supply for a 74HC00 is 6V or 7V so your 12V probably destroyed it.
 
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