need some help finding LTspice components.

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Sonoma_Dog

Joined Jul 24, 2008
99
Finally i got my hand started on LTspice. looks pretty easy to use and works great so far. But LTspice only comes with basic components like resistor, cap, and LT parts. so i want to know where can i get more parts?

I also joined the LT yahoo group, but cant find any components that i need. I tried to search for LM741 op-amp, but got no luck after looking at the files for an hour. I am just wondering if there is an easier way to search for the components?

Thanks in advance
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
Why would you want to model an LM741, when virtually anything in Linear Technology's lineup is far and away better?

This is sort of like going to an exotic sports car lot that's loaded with Ferraris, Jaguars, Mercedes and Porches, and wondering why they don't have a '64 VW Beetle with bald tires, busted headlights, broken-down upholstery and leaking oil like the Exxon Valdez.

At least look for something halfway decent, like a TL071, TL072, LF351, LF353. No, they're not in Linear's libraries either - but I'll bet you'll find those on the LT Yahoo Group files.
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
If you really want one, here's Texas Instrument's version; a UA741.
Rich (BB code):
* UA741 OPERATIONAL AMPLIFIER "MACROMODEL" SUBCIRCUIT
* CREATED USING PARTS RELEASE 4.01 ON 07/05/89 AT 09:09
* (REV N/A)      SUPPLY VOLTAGE: +/-15V
* CONNECTIONS:   NON-INVERTING INPUT
*                | INVERTING INPUT
*                | | POSITIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | NEGATIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | | OUTPUT
*                | | | | |
.SUBCKT UA741    1 2 3 4 5
*
  C1   11 12 4.664E-12
  C2    6  7 20.00E-12
  DC    5 53 DX
  DE   54  5 DX
  DLP  90 91 DX
  DLN  92 90 DX
  DP    4  3 DX
  EGND 99  0 POLY(2) (3,0) (4,0) 0 .5 .5
  FB    7 99 POLY(5) VB VC VE VLP VLN 0 10.61E6 -10E6 10E6 10E6 -10E6
  GA 6  0 11 12 137.7E-6
  GCM 0  6 10 99 2.574E-9
  IEE  10  4 DC 10.16E-6
  HLIM 90  0 VLIM 1K
  Q1   11  2 13 QX
  Q2   12  1 14 QX
  R2    6  9 100.0E3
  RC1   3 11 7.957E3
  RC2   3 12 7.957E3
  RE1  13 10 2.740E3
  RE2  14 10 2.740E3
  REE  10 99 19.69E6
  RO1   8  5 150
  RO2   7 99 150
  RP    3  4 18.11E3
  VB    9  0 DC 0
  VC 3 53 DC 2.600
  VE   54  4 DC 2.600
  VLIM  7  8 DC 0
  VLP  91  0 DC 25
  VLN   0 92 DC 25
.MODEL DX D(IS=800.0E-18)
.MODEL QX NPN(IS=800.0E-18 BF=62.50)
.ENDS
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
Here's TI's model for an LF353:
Rich (BB code):
* LF353 OPERATIONAL AMPLIFIER "MACROMODEL" SUBCIRCUIT
* CREATED USING PARTS RELEASE 4.01 ON 06/27/89 AT 08:19
* (REV N/A)      SUPPLY VOLTAGE: +/-15V
* CONNECTIONS:   NON-INVERTING INPUT
*                | INVERTING INPUT
*                | | POSITIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | NEGATIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | | OUTPUT
*                | | | | |
.SUBCKT LF353    1 2 3 4 5
*
  C1   11 12 3.498E-12
  C2    6  7 15.00E-12
  DC    5 53 DX
  DE   54  5 DX
  DLP  90 91 DX
  DLN  92 90 DX
  DP    4  3 DX
  EGND 99  0 POLY(2) (3,0) (4,0) 0 .5 .5
  FB    7 99 POLY(5) VB VC VE VLP VLN 0 28.29E6 -30E6 30E6 30E6 -30E6
  GA    6  0 11 12 282.8E-6
  GCM   0  6 10 99 1.590E-9
  ISS   3 10 DC 195.0E-6
  HLIM 90  0 VLIM 1K
  J1   11  2 10 JX
  J2   12  1 10 JX
  R2    6  9 100.0E3
  RD1   4 11 3.536E3
  RD2   4 12 3.536E3
  RO1   8  5 50
  RO2 7 99 11.62
  RP    3  4 15.00E3
  RSS  10 99 1.026E6
  VB    9  0 DC 0
  VC    3 53 DC 2.200
  VE   54  4 DC 2.200
  VLIM  7  8 DC 0
  VLP  91  0 DC 30
  VLN   0 92 DC 30
.MODEL DX D(IS=800.0E-18)
.MODEL JX PJF(IS=12.50E-12 BETA=250.1E-6 VTO=-1)
.ENDS
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
Here's TI's TL071:
Rich (BB code):
* TL071 OPERATIONAL AMPLIFIER "MACROMODEL" SUBCIRCUIT
* CREATED USING PARTS RELEASE 4.01 ON 06/16/89 AT 13:08
* (REV N/A)      SUPPLY VOLTAGE: +/-15V
* CONNECTIONS:   NON-INVERTING INPUT
*                | INVERTING INPUT
*                | | POSITIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | NEGATIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | | OUTPUT
*                | | | | |
.SUBCKT TL071    1 2 3 4 5
*
  C1   11 12 3.498E-12
  C2    6  7 15.00E-12
  DC    5 53 DX
  DE   54  5 DX
  DLP  90 91 DX
  DLN  92 90 DX
  DP    4  3 DX
  EGND 99  0 POLY(2) (3,0) (4,0) 0 .5 .5
  FB    7 99 POLY(5) VB VC VE VLP VLN 0 4.715E6 -5E6 5E6 5E6 -5E6
  GA    6  0 11 12 282.8E-6
  GCM   0  6 10 99 8.942E-9
  ISS   3 10 DC 195.0E-6
  HLIM 90  0 VLIM 1K
  J1   11  2 10 JX
  J2   12  1 10 JX
  R2    6  9 100.0E3
  RD1   4 11 3.536E3
  RD2   4 12 3.536E3
  RO1   8  5 150
  RO2   7 99 150
  RP    3  4 2.143E3
  RSS  10 99 1.026E6
  VB    9  0 DC 0
  VC    3 53 DC 2.200
  VE   54  4 DC 2.200
  VLIM  7  8 DC 0
  VLP  91  0 DC 25
  VLN   0 92 DC 25
.MODEL DX D(IS=800.0E-18)
.MODEL JX PJF(IS=15.00E-12 BETA=270.1E-6 VTO=-1)
.ENDS
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
TI's TL072:
Rich (BB code):
* TL072 OPERATIONAL AMPLIFIER "MACROMODEL" SUBCIRCUIT
* CREATED USING PARTS RELEASE 4.01 ON 06/16/89 AT 13:08
* (REV N/A)      SUPPLY VOLTAGE: +/-15V
* CONNECTIONS:   NON-INVERTING INPUT
*                | INVERTING INPUT
*                | | POSITIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | NEGATIVE POWER SUPPLY
*                | | | | OUTPUT
*                | | | | |
.SUBCKT TL072    1 2 3 4 5
*
  C1   11 12 3.498E-12
  C2    6  7 15.00E-12
  DC    5 53 DX
  DE   54  5 DX
  DLP  90 91 DX
  DLN  92 90 DX
  DP    4  3 DX
  EGND 99  0 POLY(2) (3,0) (4,0) 0 .5 .5
  FB    7 99 POLY(5) VB VC VE VLP VLN 0 4.715E6 -5E6 5E6 5E6 -5E6
  GA    6  0 11 12 282.8E-6
  GCM   0  6 10 99 8.942E-9
  ISS   3 10 DC 195.0E-6
  HLIM 90  0 VLIM 1K
  J1   11  2 10 JX
  J2   12  1 10 JX
  R2    6  9 100.0E3
  RD1   4 11 3.536E3
  RD2   4 12 3.536E3
  RO1   8  5 150
  RO2   7 99 150
  RP    3  4 2.143E3
  RSS  10 99 1.026E6
  VB    9  0 DC 0
  VC    3 53 DC 2.200
  VE   54  4 DC 2.200
  VLIM  7  8 DC 0
  VLP  91  0 DC 25
  VLN   0 92 DC 25
.MODEL DX D(IS=800.0E-18)
.MODEL JX PJF(IS=15.00E-12 BETA=270.1E-6 VTO=-1)
.ENDS
 

Thread Starter

Sonoma_Dog

Joined Jul 24, 2008
99
Sweet, so why LM471 is crap? and if i need to buy LT parts, do i just order from the LT website? or do they have any retail stores?


Thanks
 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,210
The 741 was the greatest thing since sliced bread when it first came out. That was about 40 years ago. It has a number of shortcomings that were greatly improved upon in later designs - that were given different part numbers.

Linear Technology components can be purchased directly from their website, from authorized distributors and direct sales offices.
Digikey, Newark, and Arrow Electronics are three of the major distributors who have online websites where you can order items and have them shipped to you. I've used the first two of those distributors.

There is a Purchasing link on Linear Technology's website. From there you can visit their online store, find out their authorized distributors and sales offices.

It is a good idea to check a manufacturer's sales info to find out who their authorized distributors are, as counterfeit ICs have been showing up in great numbers the last few years. The counterfeits appear externally to be the same as the "real deal", but don't perform like them.
 
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