Hi all,
For some fun hide&seek related project I'm trying to have an IR LED visible on a mobile phone from a distance of at least 10m (preferably 15m or more) in the dark (at night; under trees; no light sources around other than the moon and the stars).
I've done some experimenting with remote controls, and found that my phone camera can see the flashes fine but only up to about 2m distance. And that's too close for my purpose.
The idea is that I want to lead people to a certain place, and from there they have to scan the surroundings using a digital camera, to see these IR flashes, which will be at a rate of 1-2 per second.
Now my main question here at this moment: is this even possible? Can we get IR LEDs that are so bright that they can be seen by an unmodified digital camera from 10-15m distance? And if so, how?
Obvious ways to increase brightness are to get a super-bright LED, have a narrower beam (I've seen 5°, normal RC LEDs have something like 20-25° beams), or pushing them with a very short, but high current pulse - other posts claim RCs may use 500 mA pulses.
Important is that it works for unmodified cameras, without special night mode. Cheap cameras will likely work better (poorer IR filter), though expensive ones may have a night vision mode which would make this a no-brainer but can't count on that.
Any experiences? Thank you in advance for any replies!
Wouter.
For some fun hide&seek related project I'm trying to have an IR LED visible on a mobile phone from a distance of at least 10m (preferably 15m or more) in the dark (at night; under trees; no light sources around other than the moon and the stars).
I've done some experimenting with remote controls, and found that my phone camera can see the flashes fine but only up to about 2m distance. And that's too close for my purpose.
The idea is that I want to lead people to a certain place, and from there they have to scan the surroundings using a digital camera, to see these IR flashes, which will be at a rate of 1-2 per second.
Now my main question here at this moment: is this even possible? Can we get IR LEDs that are so bright that they can be seen by an unmodified digital camera from 10-15m distance? And if so, how?
Obvious ways to increase brightness are to get a super-bright LED, have a narrower beam (I've seen 5°, normal RC LEDs have something like 20-25° beams), or pushing them with a very short, but high current pulse - other posts claim RCs may use 500 mA pulses.
Important is that it works for unmodified cameras, without special night mode. Cheap cameras will likely work better (poorer IR filter), though expensive ones may have a night vision mode which would make this a no-brainer but can't count on that.
Any experiences? Thank you in advance for any replies!
Wouter.