LM317 voltage regulator circuit

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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allright. I pulled up the LM317 spec sheet and found the following




so....here is the work I have based on this equation



I am wayyyyy off base here. what am I doing wrong?
 

t_n_k

Joined Mar 6, 2009
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The adjustment pin current is typically a max of ~5uA for the LM317. You appear to have Iadj = 0.01A - which is way off.
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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In R2 of your schematic (your diagram and the application notes have reversed designations) you have 100Ω. Since the method the LM317 uses is to maintain 1.25V between the output pin and adjust you should be able to figure current. The current through R2 is the same as through R1. From there it is gravy.
 

Jony130

Joined Feb 17, 2009
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Iadj is 50uA typical, and 100uA=0.0001A max.

But this circuit can be treat as a voltage divider.
Since R2 = 100Ω and voltage across R2 is equal 1.25V we have
IR1 = 1.25V/100Ω = 12.5mA
And the current that is flow through R1 is equal
IR2 = Iadj + IR1 = 12.6mA
And we want Vo = 15V----> VR1 = 15V - 1.25V = 13.75V

R1 = 13.75V/12.6mA = 1.09126984KΩ

\(R1=R2*\frac{Vout-1.25V }{1.25V+I_{ADJ}*R2}\)

Or

\(R1=R2*(\frac{Vout }{1.25V}-1)\)
 
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Kermit2

Joined Feb 5, 2010
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The position of R2 and R1 are different in your problem and in the example you posted. Go back a redo the math and notice carefully how the fraction made by the resistor values is arranged in the example and how the Resistors in the problem are the reverse.
 

t_n_k

Joined Mar 6, 2009
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Iadj is 50uA typical, and 100uA=0.0001A max.
Agreed - I misread the data sheet. Looked at the adjustment pin current change row rather than the actual value. I can only put it down to deteriorating vision.

Apologies for the misinformation.
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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Iadj is 50uA typical, and 100uA=0.0001A max.

But this circuit can be treat as a voltage divider.
Since R2 = 100Ω and voltage across R2 is equal 1.25V we have
IR1 = 1.25V/100Ω = 12.5mA
And the current that is flow through R1 is equal
IR2 = Iadj + IR1 = 12.6mA
And we want Vo = 15V----> VR1 = 15V - 1.25V = 13.75V

R1 = 13.75V/12.6mA = 1.09126984KΩ

\(R1=R2*\frac{Uwy-1.25V }{1.25V+I_{ADJ}*R2}\)

Or

\(R1=R2*(\frac{Uwy }{1.25V}-1)\)

what is the variable "Uwy" referring to?
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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In R2 of your schematic (your diagram and the application notes have reversed designations) you have 100Ω. Since the method the LM317 uses is to maintain 1.25V between the output pin and adjust you should be able to figure current. The current through R2 is the same as through R1. From there it is gravy.

thats a great explanation.

I = 0.0125A

R = 13.75/0.0125 = 1100

which is basically the same answer that was derived by Jony130

however, this answer was listed as wrong

what are we doing wrong here?
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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per wikipedia

"In electronics, the dropout voltage of a voltage regulator is the smallest possible difference between the input voltage and output voltage to remain inside the regulator's intended operating range."

so if I understand correctly the dropout voltage has no effect on what the output voltage will be.
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
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Hello,

Rwn and Rpn are the resistances of the wires from the regulator to the load.
These will be dependend on the used wire, but can be dismissed when using small loads, as the values are mosttimes very small.

Bertus
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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allright so in the equation they are subtracting (IL*Rwp), which in reality is the voltage drop of the wire. since this loss is negligible we will disregard it.



R2 should be -88

also incorrect
 
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