As with you I have suspicions far more 'Unofficially sanctioned or requested' snooping goes on behind the scenes with those agencies than ever gets admitted to. If they did they would never get anything done.
I have yet to ever work for any business or company that didn't have more than whatever went on official records going on in real day to day activities. Officially stuff never happened. Unofficially and off the company records and knowledge of the higher ups it was done all the time and for countless reasons most of which were totally benign in action and intent.
Hell, I knowing and willingly participated in it quite regularly where the actions of reporting something and making it an officially documented incident or action (because some new policy said so Vs the old one not caring) was such a pain the ass can of worms to open that just ignoring and or denying something happened or was done was the best thing to do for everyone that could have possibly been involved.
As a service technician on paper no machine I have ever worked on ever spilled a drop of fluid over the reportable and recordable amount ever anywhere any time. Unofficially it was common to work on something that emptied it guts out someplace and was cleaned up without a trace off the records.
Same with what I know of from other peoples daily work and what they see. I have family who work with local business and government department (schools courthouses and the like) computer networks who by their own job actions see loads of things that probably aren't suposed to be seen. Do they report it? Nope. Not worth losing your job and creating a never ending shyte storm because you found some government office clerk or school official has some files documenting something likely benign, but maybe not, on the systems that may or may not have anything to do with them having actually done anything illegal.
Knowing that happens in my lowest end of the system and knowing what gets covered up or ignored in higher levels for the same reasons (just to not have to deal with nonsensical irrationally driven bureaucracy of it all that will end in nothing but a lot of good peoples wasted time and money) I have every reason to suspect that President Trumps accusations likely do have some merit.
Maybe not provable or of significant validity to mean anything to the extents some are implying but still. I suspect that people who work and deal with things at his level get snooped on all the time for any number of reasons legally justified or simply out of personal curiosity or by accident by those who have the capacity to do so even when their official procedures say not to.
How many janitors and custodians worldwide see official documents on people's desks or in their garbage cans daily that they are officially not supposed to see and read but do just because their jobs give them access to such locations that stuff like that is kept?
Did they snoop? Well sort of but not officially and in many cased not even on purpose and like hell they will admit to it without someone else putting a lot of pressure on them to admit to it even if they never did see anything that was of any real valid concern ever to begin with!
I have yet to ever work for any business or company that didn't have more than whatever went on official records going on in real day to day activities. Officially stuff never happened. Unofficially and off the company records and knowledge of the higher ups it was done all the time and for countless reasons most of which were totally benign in action and intent.
Hell, I knowing and willingly participated in it quite regularly where the actions of reporting something and making it an officially documented incident or action (because some new policy said so Vs the old one not caring) was such a pain the ass can of worms to open that just ignoring and or denying something happened or was done was the best thing to do for everyone that could have possibly been involved.
As a service technician on paper no machine I have ever worked on ever spilled a drop of fluid over the reportable and recordable amount ever anywhere any time. Unofficially it was common to work on something that emptied it guts out someplace and was cleaned up without a trace off the records.
Same with what I know of from other peoples daily work and what they see. I have family who work with local business and government department (schools courthouses and the like) computer networks who by their own job actions see loads of things that probably aren't suposed to be seen. Do they report it? Nope. Not worth losing your job and creating a never ending shyte storm because you found some government office clerk or school official has some files documenting something likely benign, but maybe not, on the systems that may or may not have anything to do with them having actually done anything illegal.
Knowing that happens in my lowest end of the system and knowing what gets covered up or ignored in higher levels for the same reasons (just to not have to deal with nonsensical irrationally driven bureaucracy of it all that will end in nothing but a lot of good peoples wasted time and money) I have every reason to suspect that President Trumps accusations likely do have some merit.
Maybe not provable or of significant validity to mean anything to the extents some are implying but still. I suspect that people who work and deal with things at his level get snooped on all the time for any number of reasons legally justified or simply out of personal curiosity or by accident by those who have the capacity to do so even when their official procedures say not to.
How many janitors and custodians worldwide see official documents on people's desks or in their garbage cans daily that they are officially not supposed to see and read but do just because their jobs give them access to such locations that stuff like that is kept?
Did they snoop? Well sort of but not officially and in many cased not even on purpose and like hell they will admit to it without someone else putting a lot of pressure on them to admit to it even if they never did see anything that was of any real valid concern ever to begin with!
