Is there any way of voting against someone without voting FOR someone else?

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nsaspook

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This is why sailors rule the world. :D

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...k-to-replace-mike-flynn-turns-the-offer-down/
President Trump’s pick to replace Michael Flynn after he resigned from the national security advisor position has himself turned down the offer Thursday, it’s being reported.

Retired Navy Vice Admiral Robert Harward is widely admired in the national security world according to MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and even among Obama people. CNN’s Jake Tapper cited a friend of Harward claiming that he turned down the offer because the White House appeared to be too “chaotic,” and called the offer a “s**t sandwich.”
 

BR-549

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I might be wrong, but I think a seal would have a disappointing experience in politics. They work and live in a cooperative environment. When a fast change is necessary......that change will be cooperative.

When seals retire.......they should become sheriffs. The training and leadership would be valuable for local security. It would keep the older seals active and in reserve and benefit the training in local communities.
 

GopherT

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The Media's ungloved rectal inspection that's happening now is where it came from. Colon cleansing is good for the body in the long run and the byproduct makes a fertilizer.
I watched today's press conference. He is really good at explaining things he understands.
 

nsaspook

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I watched today's press conference. He is really good at explaining things he understands.
I can't watch him for than a few seconds without wanting to turn off the TV. While I might like some of what he's doing I find his personality grating and his train of thought usually preposterous. The theory that he and some cabal are in cahoots with Russia is even more preposterous.
 

GopherT

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I can't watch him for than a few seconds without wanting to turn off the TV. While I might like some of what he's doing I find his personality grating and his train of thought usually preposterous.
My assessment: he ONLY understands the fact that he won the electorial college. That part gets explained well. Everything else, a shit show. He can't concentrate long enough to finish a paragraph - his voice just trails off and the next talking point pops into his head. This is a sign of severe AD syndrome and possibly functional illiteracy.

The theory that he and some cabal are in cahoots with Russia is even more preposterous.
It's not a cabal. It was more likely a simple cash transaction - a service offered, negotiated and completed.
 

nsaspook

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It's not a cabal. It was more likely a simple cash transaction - a service offered, negotiated and completed.
In any form it's a utterly stupid conspiracy theory propagated by the mentally ill. It's exactly like all the Obama birther and all the other weird conspiracy theories about him.
 

GopherT

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In any form it's a utterly stupid conspiracy theory propagated by the mentally ill. It's exactly like all the Obama birther and all the other weird conspiracy theories about him.
My theory is based on:
- Complicated things happened.
- Complicated things take hard work and expensive equipment.
- People don't buy expensive equipment and work hard to use it unless they get paid.

How do you explain motivations and actions in your reality?

.
 

ronv

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I can't watch him for than a few seconds without wanting to turn off the TV. While I might like some of what he's doing I find his personality grating and his train of thought usually preposterous. The theory that he and some cabal are in cahoots with Russia is even more preposterous.
If you want to have some fun, take one of his press conferences and write it down or get a transcript. Then note the questions and the response. Just a couple from today:
It's a press conference to announce the new guy for the dept. of labor - but he's not there.
Oh well well talk about how much I won the election by. Biggest Electoral College win since Reagan. What? Obama was bigger? Well maybe the biggest Republican win. What G.W. was bigger?
This administration is running like a fine tuned machine, but I can't get my cabinet approved, my EO's are in court, Flynn lied to my VP, but he's a really great guy. Oh did I mention his replacement turned down the job.
We got a bad deal from the 9th circuit. We are going to appeal it. Well actually no. We are writing a new EO.
I want to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus,but Cummings backed out one me - a claim later denied by Cummings. But it's okay because he ask the Black woman reporter to set up a meeting with them for him. Problem solved.
Yep, best press conference ever.:(
 

nsaspook

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My theory is based on:
- Complicated things happened.
- Complicated things take hard work and expensive equipment.
- People don't buy expensive equipment and work hard to use it unless they get paid.

How do you explain motivations and actions in your reality?

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Sure, that also explains the guy flipping burgers wanting to buy a new gaming computer.

Humans want to assume there is a reason for their angst so we normally concoct Ipso facto (X is evil so they must have done evil) story lines to confirm our feelings. The problem is there is usually little connection with those stories and reality. It's only a ghost that's created mentally from a dust cloud if you run events backwards using your prejudices in crackpot version of superdeterminism with the predictive power of Last Thursdayism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
A common (and more laconic) British English variation, coined by Bernard Ingham, is the saying "cock-up before conspiracy," deriving from this 1985 quotation:

Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the cock-up theory.[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finagle's_law
Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment.
 
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nsaspook

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Yep, best press conference ever.:(
I do like the fact that Trump has destroyed the facade of the imperial presidency and White House. The President is an administrator/executive not a ruler in this country. The media had their lips so close to King Obama it was pornographic.
 

shortbus

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If you want to have some fun, take one of his press conferences and write it down or get a transcript. Then note the questions and the response. Just a couple from today:
It's a press conference to announce the new guy for the dept. of labor - but he's not there.
Oh well well talk about how much I won the election by. Biggest Electoral College win since Reagan. What? Obama was bigger? Well maybe the biggest Republican win. What G.W. was bigger?
This administration is running like a fine tuned machine, but I can't get my cabinet approved, my EO's are in court, Flynn lied to my VP, but he's a really great guy. Oh did I mention his replacement turned down the job.
We got a bad deal from the 9th circuit. We are going to appeal it. Well actually no. We are writing a new EO.
I want to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus,but Cummings backed out one me - a claim later denied by Cummings. But it's okay because he ask the Black woman reporter to set up a meeting with them for him. Problem solved.
Yep, best press conference ever.:(
One thing about the supreme leaders press conference is, Alec Baldwin and the cast and crew of SNL are getting the day off. The writers decided they would just replay the news conference, nothing they could write or do could be funnier.
 

shortbus

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The problem is there is usually little connection with those stories and reality. It's only a ghost that's created mentally from a dust cloud if you run events backwards using your prejudices in crackpot version of superdeterminism with the predictive power of Last Thursdayism.
Think you just hit the working theory of the present WH! But as they call it, "January 20 2017." The day the carnival officially came to town.
 

shortbus

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It's not a legitimate role of government to be mucking around with our health care and they should just stay the hell out of it.
But it is the role to mandate other insurance things? Like say, every one has to have car insurance? Oh wait, that applies because you have a nice car and don't want some guy driving a beater with no insurance wrecking into your nice car. Your insurance rates for your nice car would be much higher if the law wasn't in place. And to tie this back to health care, you have health insurance so why would you worry about those who don't?
 
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