Is Talent A Mental Illness Or Is Psychiatry A Junk Science?

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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if chronic depression and mood disorders might actually be caused by a persistent infection by the common cold cold virus.
It's an article on this theme:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...cteria-virus-prevented-jab-expert-claims.html
It's very, very unusual. Nobody uses that.
If you want to make a beautiful all-around gift, engage in research.

Ask the person who studies this if they do not need a technician.
If you work there you can recommend me: "Professor do not need a biophysicist?"
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I'm just wondering if your doctor(s) did a thorough analysis of your child's symptoms and exactly how they narrowed their diagnosis to autism.

In my very layman's opinion, the symptoms of autism closely resemble Persistent Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (PCFS) that has effected a significant number military personnel who served in the Gulf War and in Iraq. The affect of PCFS would be a lot more serious in children especially if they contracted the disease as infants or during the first several years of development.

As for the question of what causes PCFS in certain adults, military personnel are given a lot of different vaccines -especially those working overseas where there's a greater risk of exposure to pathogens. Also, the children of veterans also seem to have autism more than the general population. Then there's a correlation between children who have been vaccinated for measles and the diagnosis of autism.

It seems that both PCFS and autism appeared at about the same time frame (in the last 20 years) so the two diseases may have a common denominator of some sort. Whether the link is related to vaccinations or something else in the environment needs more research before solid conclusions can be made.
You need to step out of the twilight zone with outlandish theories of autism and vaccines.
https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...ges/Vaccine-Studies-Examine-the-Evidence.aspx

If anything my child was hyper-active with too much energy as a child. He loved to run and won an award in the local special Olympics when he was much younger.


As an adult he still has an extremely high metabolism and is very athletic so I see very little in common with PCFS. They fact that might both be related to brain function doesn't lead to a common cause for both.
 

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Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
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You need to step out of the twilight zone with outlandish theories of autism and vaccines.
https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...ges/Vaccine-Studies-Examine-the-Evidence.aspx

If anything my child was hyper-active with too much energy as a child. He loved to run and won an award in the local special Olympics when he was much younger.


As an adult he still has an extremely high metabolism and is very athletic so I see very little in common with PCFS. They fact that might both be related to brain function doesn't lead to a common cause for both.
Just as a curiosity, how/why was your child diagnosed with autism?

It seems to be a rather broad and vague diagnosis and there should be a narrower definition and also a narrower cause.
If the child has basic communication capabilities, a specialist should be able to query the child's thoughts and interpret his behavior relative to the social/physical environment.
 
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jgessling

Joined Jul 31, 2009
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My daughter the intern (internal medicine) told me the same thing. When interviewing patients she assumes they are lying. At least about the usual things: how much do you drink, how often do you exercise, do you eat healthy? But then they'll lie differently on other things like: do you get enough sleep, or how are your kids doing? At least she can check physical things but the poor psychiatrist has to pick his way through the lies as presented.
 

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Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
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My daughter the intern (internal medicine) told me the same thing. When interviewing patients she assumes they are lying. At least about the usual things: how much do you drink, how often do you exercise, do you eat healthy? But then they'll lie differently on other things like: do you get enough sleep, or how are your kids doing? At least she can check physical things but the poor psychiatrist has to pick his way through the lies as presented.
As far as I'm concerned, psychiatric analysis should be subject to the 5Th Amendment and people should not be required to testify against them selves.

Therefore, they should lie whenever possible.
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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You rarely find a healthy psychiatrist............
How many people you think makes them happy work 8 hours a day among crazy people?

Work with people you can not even talk about normal.
There are people with great soul, but they are rare.

Speak if autism is ill or not......................

If you can cope alone, it's not illness.
If you notice that you can not do it yourself, call a doctor.
If the doctor gives you a cure then it's the illness.

It's very simple.

Our world is weird................
A person with Autism can live with no help.

But when you go to school, it will seem strange to teacher.
The normal tendency is to ask the person to no behave so.
Teachers are upset when they notice that the second, the third day nothing changes.
What you can do?
Go to the doctor and get a certificate present it the teachers and they become more understanding, more permissive.

Careful:
Do not confuse the symptoms of a disease with character traits.
These two can easily be confused.

The voices in my mind asked me to write this(It's just a joke)
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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I met a child with special needs at the physics exam.
I decided to ask her a simple question to pass the exam:
"If a body receives heat its temperature rises or decreases?"
She wrote on the sheet:
"Body temperature increases by 10% and decreases by 20%"

I'm very annoyed by illogical answers.
But I wrote on the sheet pass the exam. If I had do not pass the exam her she would have lost school.
Probably there are founds to follow such a people school .......

The autistic child is very smart but slowly thinking. Because of this, colleagues laugh him.
What are you doing when you teach something and that kid is not watching you and playing alone?
 
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Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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Slowly thinking means:
- Question 1
- no answer
- Question 2
- answer to question 1
and so on............
Eq:
-It's cold, you want a thicker coat?
- no answer
- Okay, let's go outside to walk around
- no (answer at first question)
- Okay, then we do not go out for a walk
- But I want to go out and walk
- And why you did not say?
- I said but you did not understand
- Do you believe me stupid?
-no
and so on....

In the literature if you like you can read Chekhov with the Ward 6.
This is about a young doctor who gets to work in a psychiatric hospital.
He despised the mentally ill patients he had to stay with.
One night as a doctor of guard, walk on the corridor throu the cells where the mentally ill were locked. There is a discussion between patients who seem very smart.

He approached and listened to the conversation that seemed very wise.
He gets himself to talk to those patients.
It is a regular partner for discussion with that patient group.
Discuss philosophical things....................
He starts to understand and approved those patients


Seeing this, the other doctors close this young doctor in the same room with their patients.

The story ends with this young doctor who came as a doctor in the hospital and ends up as a patient for the rest of his life.


I've also heard that swamps are a haven for alligator snapping turtles which can give a nasty bite!!! :eek:
very nasty bite.

Thank you for underline in red out the wrong words. That's what helps me learn to write corect in English
 
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Motanache

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"The researchers found out that certain bacteria in the mother’s digestive tract can develop immune cells that directly influence the baby’s brain cells development."
Very smart and very fair.

If they develop treatments that address the cause of the affection I admire them.

If they will find it more profitable to treat a person all his life ......I will hate them.

The bacterium is too small and has no power to create these damage.
But bacterium can trick the immune system into attacking healthy organs ......
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Just as a curiosity, how/why was your child diagnosed with autism?

It seems to be a rather broad and vague diagnosis and there should be a narrower definition and also a narrower cause.
If the child has basic communication capabilities, a specialist should be able to query the child's thoughts and interpret his behavior relative to the social/physical environment.
His official diagnosis was with several doctors including his normal pediatrician at about age 5 or 6 but indications were there long before that.
A short clip of a 6 page evaluation.
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I've got stacks and stacks of medical tests that are required today for government programs so there is plenty of duplicate documentation of his condition by completely separate medical facilities.


I hope one day there is a cause and cure because unlike what some seem to think there is very little good in this disorder and a hell of a lot of bad that's pretty easy to interpret at a young age.
 
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nsaspook

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Wow.. I would've immediately dismiss that story as a scam, if it weren't for their paper being published in Nature ... Now we'll have to wait for replication of their experiments, and see if it applies to humans as well.
I've seen this gut bacteria claim in the past.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/12/gut-microbes-linked-autismlike-symptoms-mice

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-a...nt-associated-medical-conditions/gi-disorders

I see nothing close to proof it's the main cause of autism. It only 'proves' we can create conditions that destroy normal brain function similar to what we see in autism. Maybe poor maternal bonding and excessive automotive exhaust is the leading cause of autism so electric cars will cure it.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I've seen this gut bacteria claim in the past.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/12/gut-microbes-linked-autismlike-symptoms-mice

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-a...nt-associated-medical-conditions/gi-disorders

I see nothing close to proof it's the main cause of autism. It only 'proves' we can create conditions that destroy normal brain function similar to what we see in autism. Maybe poor maternal bonding and excessive automotive exhaust is the leading cause of autism so electric cars will cure it.
Maybe... but their study at least looks like a start in the right direction...
 

Motanache

Joined Mar 2, 2015
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I see nothing close to proof it's the main cause of autism. It only 'proves' we can create conditions that destroy normal brain function similar to what we see in autism.
Exactly. Probably the future biological war from a SF novel in which we lose our minds.
Nuclear weapons will not be used because the land obtained through this can not be used for many years.
(It's just a SF story)
 

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Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
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His official diagnosis was with several doctors including his normal pediatrician at about age 5 or 6 but indications were there long before that.
A short clip of a 6 page evaluation.
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I've got stacks and stacks of medical tests that are required today for government programs so there is plenty of duplicate documentation of his condition by completely separate medical facilities.


I hope one day there is a cause and cure because unlike what some seem to think there is very little good in this disorder and a hell of a lot of bad that's pretty easy to interpret at a young age.
I read the excerpt from your doctor's report and I admit that I just don't have any idea of what the cause (or solution) is. I noticed the report did say something to the effect that ...........there were problems with reading and mathematical reasoning.

However those problems are rather common in many children and teenagers who aren't considered autistic. So there might be some overgeneralizing and the findings were biased by the "shot gun" approach in performing psychological evaluations.

Anyway, I'm very sorry to learn of your son's problem and I wish you and you family the best in providing him with an emotionally and physically comfortable life.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I read the excerpt from your doctor's report and I admit that I just don't have any idea of what the cause (or solution) is. I noticed the report did say something to the effect that ...........there were problems with reading and mathematical reasoning.
Don't take this in a bad way but I'm not shocked you have no idea about this condition from your comments. Most media reports make it seem like somebody flipping a coin to decide when the reality is a mentally and physically exhaustive detailed process for child and parents. What you saw was just a condensed small section of one of many reports of his condition that cover most of a young life.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3269006/
 
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