I agree. Last thing somebody needs to do is end up buying the equipment since it is all they can afford, and have it not work, or give them false results.You mean like the counterfeit chips we get from China? Caveat emptor.
I still don't think we should help in the process.
John
I can not see ant wrong in this. As it happened all the time in the electronic industry. It must also be up to the original manufacturer of this part to take some legal actions. It is not this forums task to baby-sit our members. And intervene then we think a member might do something, that might be wrong. All member in this forum is liable for their own actions. Some topics in this forum is closed. And I can accept this because it meant to protect the members from hurting themselves.Is it legal, in AAC forum, to provide help to people that declare they are copying third party equipment?
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=45722&page=3
Alberto
Learning how something works in principle so you can develop a better machine is not illegal per se. However, when it gets past a certain point as to infringe on protections or use illegal means (e.g., spies, code breaking), then the aggrieved companies and even government might get involved. The catch for this and other moderated forums is that moderators have been deemed to exercise editorial control. In short, they could become defendants in such lawsuits. At least, if they are in the USA.I can not see ant wrong in this. As it happened all the time in the electronic industry. It must also be up to the original manufacturer of this part to take some legal actions.
Protecting someone from himself is babysitting. Participating in actions by a person that hurt or damage another creates liability. You seem to accept babysitting, but not actions to protect moderators from liability.It is not this forums task to baby-sit our members. And intervene then we think a member might do something, that might be wrong. All member in this forum is liable for their own actions. Some topics in this forum is closed. And I can accept this because it meant to protect the members from hurting themselves.
That is interesting. It is easy to see how a court might say it was OK to receive the signal. It is harder to see that decoding would not be an issue. Do you have the citation or even a link to where it is discussed? How long ago was that?Landmark case involving scramble satelitte signals. An individual built a decoder and used it to view the programming. Courts said THAT was okay, and an individual is free to use the signal however he wishes, if it is for personal, or household use.
Are you sure of that? Can you cite any support for what would amount to an expansion to patents of the fair use doctrine that applies to copyright?It is not illegal to make something that is patented for yourself. It is illegal to make it and sell it as your own.
We had the first guy here in Tampa that made the first cable descramblers back in the 80's. He got by with it as a legal biz untill around 04. Then they arrested him and fined him 4 million dollars. But by that time the dude was worth like 50m so he quietly paid the 4m in fines and retired. Before he learned the cable hack he was just an installer. There was a great write up about him here locally a couple years back. But we have all kinds of landmark cases here. We just tried John Gotti Jr for rackateering. He was trying to muscle in on the Valet car biz trying to run a protection racket on them. Unfortunately no one told Gotti JR FL is spoken for with the mob. The same family has run FL for the past 90 years. So naturally he was in jail 3 days after he landed in Tampa. We also just busted some guys at the port making Cocaine subs for the Columbians and charging them $550k each. They busted the two guys but the biz had been running for 6 years so god knows how many subs they put into the water. Anyways somehow despite no drugs FL managed to find them guilty of something and threw em in jail. We also threw that porn guy max hardcore in jail for 4 years for obscene material. Even though it was hosted in CA since he sold memberships in FL he was arrested and extradited.personal use is usually exempted from such laws. Try to sell it, or make one for someone else(even for free) and then you cross a legal line.
Landmark case involving scramble satelitte signals. An individual built a decoder and used it to view the programming. Courts said THAT was okay, and an individual is free to use the signal however he wishes, if it is for personal, or household use. supplying it to others or selling or giving away the decoder would be against the law.
Trouble here is 'how do you know' what an individual is going to do with his work. Keep it for personal use? then it would be ok. Use it any other way and it might break the laws. We can't tell from a written word forum, so prudence would suggest not allowing these subjects at all.
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