How to get +12 and -12 from car battery.

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Metalica

Joined Aug 1, 2010
42
I have an audio amp and it requires +12VDC , 0(ground), and -12V DC to power it.
So is it possible to get the above voltages from a cars battery.
Is it possible to get these with out transformers(I.e inverters).



Thanx


 

SgtWookie

Joined Jul 17, 2007
22,230
If you used two 12v sealed lead acid batteries in series, that would work.

Don't use automotive or marine battery inside a dwelling, as they will emit hydrogen and osxygen gases.

If you're planning on using it in an automobile, then you will need an inverter (negative DC-DC converter) to supply the negative portion.
 

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Metalica

Joined Aug 1, 2010
42
Yeh so i guess their is not other option then to use an inverter, since the car has only one battery supplying +12 with reference to the cars body.
Could their be some other way to get -12 v and +12v from the cars batter to power the above diagram......?
No inverters plz..................
 

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
11,087
How much current do you need for the -12V? If it is only a few mA, then there are devices, such as the ICL7660A, that will do that. You could also consider carrying a separate, smaller battery for the -12V.

On the topic of safety, I think the risk of using a lead-acid battery, particularly a sealed lead-acid battery, in a dwelling is a bit overstated. Certainly, an explosion in a garage would be serious, and it is quite common to have batteries and to charge them there. Explosions are rare and almost always result from doing a dumb thing. In addition, less than 1% of hydrogen produced by a sealed battery is released (http://www.vonwentzel.net/Battery/00.Glossary/). Production of relatively tiny amounts of hydrogen in a home is not dangerous. All homes are ventilated. Moreover, humans produce on average about 1.2 L of hydrogen per day per person*, and there has never been a home explosion related to that -- even in homes filled with people and pets.

John

*Calculation:
1) 361 mL of hydrogen per day in our flatus (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1378885/ ; and http://www.heptune.com/farts.html)

2) Roughly 850 mL of hydrogen per day in our breath (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9925135 ; and http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/resnotes/notes/94-11.htm)
 

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Metalica

Joined Aug 1, 2010
42
OK thanx for all of your inputs.
the page about SMPS were very interesting.
And the thanx jpanhalt" for the links of hydrogen gas emitions.
I resolved the above issue by buying another 12 V audio amp kit.
thanx
 
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