# How to determine whether periodic or not

Discussion in 'Homework Help' started by glorimda, Mar 29, 2012.

1. ### glorimda Thread Starter New Member

Oct 12, 2011
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I've got stuck in here while solving exercise problem.

How can I determine whether this is periodic or not.

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I can't find way to do of this due to summation.

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y1(t)=x(2t) and y2(t)=x(t/2)

I need to determine whether followings are true and find the fundamental period.

<1> if x(t) is periodic, then y1(t) is periodic.
<2> if y1(t) is periodic, then x(t) is periodic.

Could anybody help me plz?

2. ### panic mode Senior Member

Oct 10, 2011
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first of all what is 'periodic'?

as i recall it is a signal with value that eventually repeats itself (and not just once but over and over).

due to exponential term and n changing, magnitude will never be the same.
that is quite strong argument against 'periodic'.

alternatively - plot it.

3. ### Georacer Moderator

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Is the "star" the convolution operator or just an ordinary multiplication?

4. ### glorimda Thread Starter New Member

Oct 12, 2011
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panic mode// As you mentioned, that seems obvious, but is that all I can answer? I mean I think I need to show it in some mathematical way.
Georacer// That is just an multiplication.

5. ### Georacer Moderator

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In general, a signal is periodic if x(t)=x(t+T), where T is the period.

However, right now my math fails to prove if it is indeed periodic. My gut says it's not.

6. ### glorimda Thread Starter New Member

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It turned out to be aperiodic. you're right. But I want to prove it in mathematical way. Not just by intuition.