Frequency limiting...

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raffter

Joined Feb 28, 2008
113
Hello guys,


How do you DO a frequency limiting circuit, like: when freq reaches a certain limit, the output will result to "no frequency" or a V++ or Gnd...




-Ralph
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
11,248
A lowpass filter passes low frequencies and has reduced output at high frequencies.
A highpass filter passes high frequencies and has reduced output at low frequencies.

You can make simple filters that have a gradual slope or make complicated filters that have a very steep slope.
 

Dave

Joined Nov 17, 2003
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There is also band-pass filters which filter all but a specified frequency band, and band-stop filter which filter a specified frequency but allow frequencies above and below this frequency band. As Audioguru correctly states, there are means and ways of making the transitions gradual or steep, and you have either analogues techniques at your disposal or digital techniques. The traditionalists amongst us might argue to the contrary, but I am of the opinion digital filter offers the benefit of implementing complex filters with relative ease (that is not to say it is easy), particularly for band-pass and band-stop filtering.

Dave
 

Caveman

Joined Apr 15, 2008
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Couple of things. First of all, you cannot have a perfect filter. To do it would require that the filter know about the future. You can do pretty good though and there are tradeoffs with different kinds of filters.

One other part of filter design that many people forget is the phase distortion that happens as the frequency is close to the cutoff frequency. Basically different frequencies take different amount of times to get through the filter which causes the output signal to be distorted. By the way this is called group delay. To remove this, you want constant group delay. Sometimes it matters, sometimes not. No analog filter can achieve constant group delay, but FIR digital filters can. However, they will add a constant delay through the circuit because it requires a lot of taps.
 

Thread Starter

raffter

Joined Feb 28, 2008
113
Thanks for the input guys.. :)

I was kinda thinking of a 567 pll... but I dont know if you could use the output to "permanently" trigger something if the input freq is higher than the trip-off


Ralph
 

hgmjr

Joined Jan 28, 2005
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The NE567 is a tone detector. It is used to detect when the frequency is equal to a set frequency +/- a few percent of the set frequency.

You could consider using a frequency to voltage converter and then feed the signal from the output of the F-to-V to a voltage comparator.

What frequency are you trying to detect?

hgmjr
 

Thread Starter

raffter

Joined Feb 28, 2008
113
The NE567 is a tone detector. It is used to detect when the frequency is equal to a set frequency +/- a few percent of the set frequency.

You could consider using a frequency to voltage converter and then feed the signal from the output of the F-to-V to a voltage comparator.

What frequency are you trying to detect?

hgmjr

an adjustasble 100Hz - 166Hz detection... +/-5Hz resolution.. cool idea btw, BUT too much circuitry... I was hoping fora single chip approach.. if at all possible :)


Ralph
 
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