# crown jakarta management capital environmental scams asks Earth Day an Oil Scam?

#### janessachica

Joined Apr 26, 2013
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One of its fascinating revelations is that those people thought Earth Day was a crock  and were highly suspicious of the fact that the mainstream, establishment media was eagerly promoting it.

An Editorial included near the front of the book is worth quoting at length:

The environment may well be the gut issue that can unify a polarized nation in the 1970′s writes Time magazine. The Hearst Press sees it as a movement that could unite the generations. And the New York Times solemnly predicts that ecology will replace Vietnam as the major issue with students.

#### joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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I think Earth Day is a crock.

#### Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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We will agree to disagree on this issue. Just remember, other people, other opinions.

#### joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Just stating a fact.

#### Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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No, you are stating an opinion. Know the difference.

Don't get into a pi$$ing contest with a moderator, we cheat. #### joeyd999 Joined Jun 6, 2011 4,477 No, you are stating an opinion. Know the difference. Don't get into a pi$$ing contest with a moderator, we cheat.
The fact is "I think Earth Day is a crock" which is 100% absolutely true and cannot be refuted.

#### Brownout

Joined Jan 10, 2012
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I'd love to see a nation unify around the environment. It can use all the help it can get.

#### WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Anyone have a clue what the OP's point was? I sure don't.

What would "unifying around the environment" even mean? Even within the environmental movement there is little hope of any "unified" position since there are so many different and mutually exclusive positions.

Bumper sticker popular at my alma mater when I was a freshman: "Ban Mining! -- Let the bastards freeze in the dark."

#### Brownout

Joined Jan 10, 2012
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Nobody said the environment movement was a monolithic concern. But most in the movement agree on basic premesis, that the enviornment needs to be protected, that more action is needed, and so forth. A movement doesn't have to agree on everything. Some diversity of opinion can be a good thing.

#### DerStrom8

Joined Feb 20, 2011
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Anyone have a clue what the OP's point was? I sure don't.
Nope, not the slightest idea. I think he/she chose the wrong forum, and in my opinion made a post dangerously close to being political.

By that I mean I can see it getting political very quickly....

Matt

#### WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Nobody said the environment movement was a monolithic concern. But most in the movement agree on basic premesis, that the enviornment needs to be protected, that more action is needed, and so forth. A movement doesn't have to agree on everything. Some diversity of opinion can be a good thing.
But agreement at the that level is pretty much meaningless. There aren't very many people, in or out of the environmental movement, that claim that the environment shouldn't be protected, for instance. Being in agreement on broad, general platitudes is a long, long way from unifying around something.

#### spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Nope, not the slightest idea. I think he/she chose the wrong forum, and in my opinion made a post dangerously close to being political.

By that I mean I can see it getting political very quickly....

Matt
Another Jaygatsby alter ego perhaps?

#### #12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Another Jaygatsby alter ego perhaps?
I don't think I will ever understand why people post things like this on an electronics site (or come here to proclaim how great they are). There must be better places to post about Earth Day or the idea that they are rock stars or secret agents. It makes as much sense as going to a, "How to care for your bunny rabbit" website and posting phase locked loop schematics.

It is obviously difficult to make a rule that excludes people that are not interested in the reason this site exists. I guess the best I can do is be glad the moderators have to deal with this, and I don't.

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#### Brownout

Joined Jan 10, 2012
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But agreement at the that level is pretty much meaningless. There aren't very many people, in or out of the environmental movement, that claim that the environment shouldn't be protected, for instance. Being in agreement on broad, general platitudes is a long, long way from unifying around something.
I wouldn't call them platitudes. Compare general attitude about the environment now to 50 - 75 years ago. They are different in significant ways.

#### tracecom

Joined Apr 16, 2010
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Anyone have a clue what the OP's point was? I sure don't.
If it was to start an argument, he/she succeeded.

#### #12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Oh! Oh! I know! It's called a Troll!

#### strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Reread OP. There isn't a complete thought or an ounce of sense in any one of the sentences, nor was there an overall point. Smells like a bot pulled a bunch of buzzwords out of an earth day discussion and regurgitated them here. Then you guys sift through the chunks and throw them at eachother like a snowball fight. Pretty entertaining actually.

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#### #12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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Trollbots? That's a new one on me. Are the virus writers that bored that they have time to make trollbots?

#### WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Consider the rash of posts that we get where it is just some fragment of an earlier post followed by a smiley from some website. What's the point? I've certainly never figured it out.

#### DerStrom8

Joined Feb 20, 2011
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Consider the rash of posts that we get where it is just some fragment of an earlier post followed by a smiley from some website. What's the point? I've certainly never figured it out.
Sad attempt at spamming. What makes them think people would click on the smileys or images I'll never know.

Maybe they get paid for every time they post it?

Poorly planned, for sure.