It's nasty stuff. Took me a while to understand it. I bought a digitising oscilloscope with a video trigger to help me. Invaluable for that kind of stuff.Nice job.
Did you have trouble working with composite video at the start, or am I just a complete idiot?
You got the color working on your super fast pic yeah?It's nasty stuff. Took me a while to understand it. I bought a digitising oscilloscope with a video trigger to help me. Invaluable for that kind of stuff.
I probably could have done this without an oscilloscope but it would have been very difficult. My original prototype - I still have it - was entirely through hole (on a breadboard) and completed over a 3-4 week period, but the project has considerably developed from that point, including adding black, all the drawing functions, a complete hardware platform and going SMD.Yeah a scope would have been nice. I kept getting conflicting information about the vertical blanking, and almost threw my hand in the air to put the project aside until I got a DSO and I could see what was coming out of my camera.
Then I got a break! I came across some asm code that was highly remarked describing the exact width of the pulses and exactly how many to use and what scan lines can and cannot be seen and how many to count before doing VSYNC.
No. I decided for colour I will go with a different architecture using an FPGA to digitise video. The input signal will be captured, decoded and the OSD added to it, then the video is converted back into PAL/NTSC. This is useful for me because it also allows video processing simultaneously andc an effective OSD resolution of 1024x576 or 720x576. The control module will be able to highlight coloured/patterned targets at a distance on the video. But that's a long way away and will cost about $50-100 in component costs alone. There are chips which do colour OSDs, but they are rare and expensive.You got the color working on your super fast pic yeah?
The main problem isn't processing power; a PIC32 (80 MIPS / 32 bit) would probably be capable of creating the right signals. But, the problem is synchronising to the colour burst (a brief <10µs pulse of 3.57 MHz or 4.43 MHz, 10 cycles.) If you succeed with that, the colour information must be encoded, which means converting to YUV and then generating the IQ quadrature modulated 3.57 MHz signal. It's no easy task, especially when the hardware needs to be small. Then you must sum the IQ with the luma information. All whilst handling variations in the camera's colour burst frequency and variations in picture amplitude. The hardware would be so complex.Yeah something with throughput of like 50MIPS coupled to a larger DAC would be required to do color.
Colour/color; I use both.Sorry about color Vs. colour. I know you're British.
The majority of people here are American, so we're on their turf. Out of respect I spell it as color.
You can only really see luma on an oscilloscope. The high frequency chroma shows up as a thicker trace in certain areas.I see.
Don't think that I would attempt this without a decent DSO. I sort of half believe what I have read regarding color, but arrr I need to see for myself on a scope. Like what is coming out of a camera whilst shooting solid red, green and blue. Something 'baseline' to work with. Reverse engineering basically.
Know what I mean?
Possible, but would require a lot of processing power. At least 10 MSPS if you want to play back good quality video. That's why you don't store it as a waveform, but instead store the colour of each pixel (which is considerably smaller.)So it is not possible to duplicate any waveform that I see on a DSO?
Some DSOs can save to a memory stick, but most are limited to 1mpt (megapoint/channel) i.e. 1 million samples. And they export CSV usually.So a very expensive DSO then?
I have a HP 54501A, but that is about 18 years old. Still works well, currently fiddling with the PSU. I also have a Gould OS300 but that's reserved for fixing TVs and higher voltage stuff. The HP has a 512 point record, yes 512 points. Not 1 mpt. But I can live with it. I bought it second hand for £150.I see.
Which type of DSO do you recommend?
lol"Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere in outer space 'cause there's bugger all here on planet earth!"
Post a link to one of them. I bet there's something fishy going on.These new ones on ebay for well under a grand with more colors than the rainbow on the buttons, knobs and screen which claim bandwidth of 100Mhz -- they're mere toys that will disappoint?
Take this one: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RIGOL-DS...06850?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item4cf67e9b02 for example.Post a link to one of them. I bet there's something fishy going on.
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