# Can someone explain the behavior of this transformer?

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#### Vinyasi Qx

Joined May 8, 2017
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A fellow did an experiment with a shorted transformer and posted the video on YouTube along with the math. Since it was in Russian, someone else did the translation. Granted, the fact that the transformer is toroidal, and I am assuming that his windings are possibly wound counter to each other, still, I want to understand how he can get reversal of current on his larger coil and an elevated voltage and an elevated current on his smaller coil when a normal step-down transformer should get a smaller voltage and an elevated current on the transformer's smaller coil?

Each resistor, alongside of each coil, is 1.2 Ohms.
His total amperage is 2.8A, and the voltages on each resistor adjacent to each of his coils are ...

Coil of 11 turns: 8.6V peak amplitude on resistor R2.
Coil of 7 turns: 4.0V peak amplitude on resistor R1.

Doing the math ...

8.6V ÷ sqrt(2) ≈ 6.1V RMS (R2)
4.0V ÷ sqrt(2) ≈ 2.8V RMS (R1)

Doing a little bit of Ohm's Law relationships ...
The voltage of R1 ÷ the resistance of R1 = the current of R1, and likewise for R2. So, ...

6.1V RMS ÷ 1.2Ω ≈ 5.1A (R2)
2.8V RMS ÷ 1.2Ω ≈ 2.3A (R1)

Since his total current is 2.8A, then ...
The currents of R2 + R1 = total current. So, ...

5.1A (R2) + (–2.3A) (R1) = 2.8A of total current outside of the transformer.

Does this mean that with his data, the current on the larger coil must be inverted?

What mechanism of electrodynamic theory makes this possible mandatory?

#### sagor

Joined Mar 10, 2019
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Notice his AC signals on the scope are opposite polarity. That is, they are out of phase with each other.
He must have one of the windings wound in a reverse direction.
Opposite phases cancel each other out to a point. What you see is net difference.

#### Bordodynov

Joined May 20, 2015
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#### Vinyasi Qx

Joined May 8, 2017
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I notice that simulating his circuit is less efficient when the coils are inverted to each other in comparison to whenever they are not inverted since a counter-wound pair of coils forces the smaller inductor to exhibit current inversion rather than the larger coil. It seems that the larger coil can handle it better. So, maybe he does not counter-wind them? Thanks, Bordodynov.

So, I'm still left wondering what principle of electrodynamic theory is requiring that this negation occur? Put another way...Why is this not significant? I mean...The absolute value of an individual current is greater than the whole current.

Can the whole be smaller than any of its parts?

Is this what is called, a: "negative inductance" behaving like a capacitor since it is generating reactance rather than consuming reactance like a normal inductor would do?

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#### Janis59

Joined Aug 21, 2017
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Seems the key is to realize that both windings are contra-phase. Then difference between voltages is function of transformer bobbins link factor. But as there are high frequency, tank capacitance and two inductances and even resistance - there happens current multiplication on parallel resonator. Plus, one of the bobbins may slightly differ from other, thus the inductance differs more substantial, thus one is near the resonance whilst other is far off.

#### Bordodynov

Joined May 20, 2015
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Seems the key is to realize that both windings are contra-phase. Then difference between voltages is function of transformer bobbins link factor. But as there are high frequency, tank capacitance and two inductances and even resistance - there happens current multiplication on parallel resonator. Plus, one of the bobbins may slightly differ from other, thus the inductance differs more substantial, thus one is near the resonance whilst other is far off.
There is no resonance here. I modeled with a coefficient of magnetic coupling equal to one. The capacitance of the windings is several picofarads. For proof I can change the frequency.

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#### MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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It is also quite possible that the whole thing is faked, as is rather common with youtube.

#### Bordodynov

Joined May 20, 2015
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You are paranoid. How did the given oscillograms and simulation results match? What kind of cunning and sophisticated computer virus would have to be to make that happen? Apparently you don't know electrical engineering or simulation software. There are some people who think everyone is trying to trick them. I could make up differential equations and solve them, but as the saying goes: that's like throwing a bead in front of a pig.

#### Vinyasi Qx

Joined May 8, 2017
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Does this have similarities to Nathan Stubblefield's so-called: Earth Battery?
Comparing MrPreva’s Reversal of Current to Nathan Stubblefield’s Earth Generator

Hint... The name was imposed by the U.S. Patent Office due to similarities to earth batteries of the telegraph era immediately prior to Nathan's date for filing for patent. Nathan wanted to name it: Electric Generator, 'cuz that's what it was. It generated electricity and it was buried for a year (before use) beneath the roots of an old oak tree. The tree acted as a grounded aerial receiving mixed frequencies from the environment of micro volts.

I can't figure out how to simulate it, but the analogy may be valid?
I don't know... It was just a thought...

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#### drago1989

Joined Nov 10, 2022
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Hello Friends.
The circuit above, was created by Resercher MR.PReva , and further investigated by Aboveunity.com members.
All credits to Chris Sykes and the Team.

What you see in that circuit is called MAGNETIC RESONANCE .
Magnetic Resonance is when Curents in the Circuit are 180* out of phase , equal and opposite !!!!!!
When you have that situation , you get x2 Current ,or to say so , current is pumped.

Floyd Sweet told us not so long ago this :

If a Positive current flows to the right , and a negative current flows to the Left , the RESULT will be a Positive Current flowing to the Right , composed of the SUM of the 2 Currents !!!

So , we got 2.8 A and -2.3 A.
That means 5.1 A flowing to the right.

Thank you.
Hope this Helps !

#### Vinyasi Qx

Joined May 8, 2017
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It is also quite possible that the whole thing is faked, as is rather common with youtube.
Much of electrical engineering is composed of electrical reactances which are (themselves) predicated upon the square roots of negative numbers. And imaginary numbers require taking them on faith since there is no such thing as their square roots existing in our physical world. Yet, they prove to be useful (for performing accountability of a circuit's dynamics) to temporarily hold a portion of the results (of our calculations) in the format of a mixture of real results plus a portion of our calculations which we cannot finish (at that moment in time) in the form of imaginary numbers. This is similar to taking on faith the existence of irrational remainders when we finish performing a division between two integers and get an irrational result. In other words, we cannot afford to be anal about electricity if we're expecting to hold the concept of electricity in the palm of our hand (so to speak), because we won't be satisfied.

If MrPreva had merely put two resistors alongside each other, and connected them in parallel, and one resistor was larger than the other to represent the longer length of wire contained within the larger coil, then he wouldn't have the same results. It's the inductive reactance that is producing this reversal of current - not merely a larger resistance. And our faith in inductive reactance is predicated upon our faith in imaginary numbers.

So, imaginary numbers qualify your complaint that "the whole thing is faked". For, if we can't handle the $$\sqrt{-1}$$, then we won't be able to handle MrPreva's experiment.

This, of course, does not help anyone discern the difference between fakery and reality since both require some faith. Fakery is predicated upon the gullibility of not knowing any better while reality is not entirely provable.

#### Vinyasi Qx

Joined May 8, 2017
24
Hello Friends.
The circuit above, was created by Resercher MR.PReva , and further investigated by Aboveunity.com members.
All credits to Chris Sykes and the Team.

What you see in that circuit is called MAGNETIC RESONANCE .
Magnetic Resonance is when Curents in the Circuit are 180* out of phase , equal and opposite !!!!!!
When you have that situation , you get x2 Current ,or to say so , current is pumped.

Floyd Sweet told us not so long ago this :

If a Positive current flows to the right , and a negative current flows to the Left , the RESULT will be a Positive Current flowing to the Right , composed of the SUM of the 2 Currents !!!

So , we got 2.8 A and -2.3 A.
That means 5.1 A flowing to the right.

Thank you.
Hope this Helps !