im looking for a name brand, not ebay china junk programmer board.

one that does not have a built in PIC. i would like one that has a din set so i can just add one and program it take it out add another and program it.

does arduino have any of these and or is arduino good?

doesnt matter on price. i would like from 8-32 din for up to 32 pin PIC

or what do you use?

 

You might consider the EasyPIC6. Have a look at Roman Black's review:
http://www.romanblack.com/easypic6.htm

 

im looking for a name brand, not ebay china junk programmer board.

It is not clear whether you have wanted a Programmer board or a development/learning board. They are not the same.

If your requirement is a programmer, you can look at the development tools listed on the Microchip website, some made by Microchip and also by other reputable manufacturer.

You won't go wrong with those.

Or search Google using "PIC Programmer ZIF socket".

 

Take a look at the PicKit2 or PicKit3.

 

Take a look at the PicKit2 or PicKit3.

What he said.

Even if you do get a Dev Board with a programmer built in, you'll eventually wind up getting a PICKit 2/3 anyway.

 

I use a pickit 2, Very good, but I found using pic's easier by finding a good one with most or all requirments on & sticking to that type. I use the 18f4550 (tqfp surface mount type) you can get standard size pic of this type too & for those I use a picstart 2. Also the 18 series can be programmed using mplab's c18 c code. I find c saves alot of time.