Average power in a DC source

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
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the formula in the book states
Pdc = Vdc *Iavg

since DC voltage is already stated i just need to find Iavg

so how the heck do i do that? the book only gives me formulas for average power, and if i base my equation of their equation it will like like this


now that just doesnt look right. what am i doing wrong? and yea i accidentally put that negative sign in front of the 5dt
 

Ghar

Joined Mar 8, 2010
655
You really need to brush up on calculus.

\(\int_{0}^{T} A dt = AT\)

Your equation is wrong, you need to divide by the period.

\(I_{avg} = \frac{1}{T}\int_{t_0}^{t_0 + T} i(t) dt\)
 

Ghar

Joined Mar 8, 2010
655
Almost, you need 1/20 since you kept everything in milliseconds :p

Also, I'm assuming this is a periodic waveform, where it repeats every 20 ms.
If not the average will be different.
If it doesn't repeat at all the average is 0, since T goes to infinity.
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
209
good call on the milliseconds. ;)

and your right i need to brush up on this calculus stuff. so with this integral now. just give me a basic idea how to calculate it. Its been so long since I have attempted one
 

Ghar

Joined Mar 8, 2010
655
Ok, well the most important point is that integrals are linear...

\(\int_{0}^{T}x(t)dt = \int_{0}^{T_a}x(t)dt + \int_{T_a}^{T}x(t)dt\)

This is how you can break up the equation for average into what you wrote in the first post.

\(\frac{1}{T}\int_{0}^{T}i(t)dt = \frac{1}{20}[\int_{0}^{6}i(t)dt + \int_{6}^{10}i(t)dt + \int_{10}^{20}i(t)dt]\)

Just plug stuff in... I gave the integral identity you need to use in my first reply.
You should really figure out how to do integrals though, that's the easiest one you can do.
 

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notoriusjt2

Joined Feb 4, 2010
209


ok i get how to set up the equation. i would substitute the current values into i(t) dt. but im having trouble actually doing the integrating. i can probably plug this into some website and have it computed but i want to learn how to do it by hand.

so how do i actually do the integration
 

Ghar

Joined Mar 8, 2010
655
The integral is most easily done by the power rule:

\(\int x^n dx = \frac{1}{n + 1} x^{n+1}\)

And using the concept of linearity again:

\(\int Af(x) dx = A \int f(x)dx\)

And of course;

\(\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx = F(b) - F(a)\)

Where F(x) is the integral of f(x)

So, combine that stuff together:

\(\int_{0}^{6}7dt = 7 \int_{0}^{6}dt\)

In this case, n = 0, since t^0 = 1

\(\int dt = \frac{1}{0 + 1} t^{0 + 1} = t\)

Use that fact:

\(7 \int_{0}^{6}dt = 7(6 - 0) = 42 A\cdot ms\)

Keep doing that... sum it... and then divide by 20ms.

You'll get:
\(\frac{1}{20}(42 - 20 + 40) = 3.1 A\)

The alternative is you forget about the integral and realize what it is:
area under the curve.

It's 3 rectangles.

7A for 6ms, -5A for 4ms, and 4A for 10ms.

Sum your rectangles... and the average will be that sum divided by the total time, 20 ms.
 
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