A simple root loci question

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blazedaces

Joined Jul 24, 2008
130
So, if I have a unity feedback controller with transfer function

\(G_p(s) = \frac{K(s+1)}{s^2(s+9)}\)

Is my root loci going to be of \(G_p(s)\) OR is it of

\(T(s) = \frac{G(s)}{1+KG(s)} = \frac{s+1}{s^3+9s^2+Ks+K}\)

?

That's my question. Now, it seems more likely it's the first one, since why would we be told to graph the root loci of a graph with unobtainable poles...

And, if that is the case, does that mean to graph the root loci of a non-unity feedback controllers do I need to convert it to a form that resembles a unity feedback controller?

Thanks a lot guys,
-blazed
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
21,227
Poles come from the polynomial in the denominator. Zeros come from the poynomial in the numerator. For a third order polynomial there will be at least one real root. The other two roots will be real or will be a complex conjugate pair. The parameter K in the denominator changes the character and location of the poles. The whole purpose of the exercise is to understand how the roots move as a function of K. In particular it is important to find values of K for which the system is unstable.

Positive real roots disappear or the system does!
 

vvkannan

Joined Aug 9, 2008
138
Hi blazedaces,
I think i can answer this question as i studied this last semester.
Actually each branch of the root locus originates from an open-loop pole corresponding to k=0 and terminates at open loop zero.
So in the characteristic equation if give you 0 for 'k' you get the open loop poles as the roots of the equation.
 

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blazedaces

Joined Jul 24, 2008
130
I must have phrased the question incorrectly, but I found out the answer in the book. Thank you both for your help.

-blazed
 
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