12v car chargers output voltage

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decworld

Joined Jul 31, 2011
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Hi,
I have a genuine motorola car charger to charge an xoom that requires 12v.

The charger , model ASMMZ601CARCHR-TRI9A, is stated as 12v and 24v input compatible.

However, I put my meter across the output of the charger with 19.5v in 19.5v comes out. The xoom requires 12v in.

Anyone understand why this is possible and its safe to use.

Thanks,
Dec
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
2,595
To the outer sheath of the connector.
In which case I would return the charger as it sounds like it is faulty.

One thing - some cheap (really cheap) SMPS buck/boost converters tend to have a higher output voltage under no load. Can you find, say a 100 ohm resistor, and connect it to the output, then measure the output. The resistor will dissipate 1.44W, so use a 3W wirewound (not a small 1/4W resistor - it will melt) - you can find them at Radioshack / Maplins for cheap.
 

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decworld

Joined Jul 31, 2011
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I wonder if Motorola figured that as it will be connected to around 12v, and the device requires 12v so that no modification to voltage was required.
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
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I wonder if Motorola figured that as it will be connected to around 12v, and the device requires 12v so that no modification to voltage was required.
Is your car 12V? 19.5V is too high for a 12V car electrical system and it's too low for a 24V one(!)
 

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decworld

Joined Jul 31, 2011
10
My car is 12v.

But, I wanted to use my 15v laptop charger to power the xoom instead of carrying an extra charger. So using the car charger to get 12 from 15v.

This is why I tested higher voltages, a 15v and 19.5v supply.
 

iONic

Joined Nov 16, 2007
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is a xoom? Is it a battery or a device you want to provide 12V to? A 12V battery charger that provides only 12V will not charge the battery as the voltage must be higher than the battery voltage to provide current flow. It is typical for a battery charger voltage to be around 15V during the bulk charging phase.

On the other hand, if the "xoom" is a electronic device that requires 12V to operate, you absolutely do not want to try to operate it with a battery charger.
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
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My car is 12v.

But, I wanted to use my 15v laptop charger to power the xoom instead of carrying an extra charger. So using the car charger to get 12 from 15v.

This is why I tested higher voltages, a 15v and 19.5v supply.
Seems like all that might be in there is a few filtering components and a fuse, if that... pretty cheap of Motorola. If it works on 24V like it works on 12V, you should be able to get away with up to 24V. But no guarantees.

Is the Xoom a phone or another device?
 

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decworld

Joined Jul 31, 2011
10
The xoom is a tablet from motorola.

It requires 12v input @ 1.5a, as per the mains charger. The battery inside is 7.2v.
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
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The xoom is a tablet from motorola.

It requires 12v input @ 1.5a, as per the mains charger. The battery inside is 7.2v.
I guess the Xoom has a wide range input but I think it's quite sneaky of Motorola to sell that adapter at £20 when it probably costs 50p to make!
 

tom66

Joined May 9, 2009
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The 12v original mains charger reads 12.15v on my meter.
That's because it must be regulated. 230V is 325Vp-p, which would probably cause the release of a lot of magic smoke from the Xoom, so it does actually have to have some circuitry inside it.
 

kanoji_cb

Joined Jul 25, 2011
7
As per my knowledge, the battery chargers are giving output of rectified A.C. and it is unregulated D.C. The unregulated voltage will be reduced on putting load. You might have checked the output voltage without putting load. As tom66, Senior member suggested you can test the voltage by putting a load resistor of 100 ohm/3watt wire wound resistor accross the terminal. Please note that this is not a modification to your motorola charger. If you check the output voltage after putting load, then it may show correct reading.
 
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