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Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by ELECTRONERD, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. ELECTRONERD

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    Hey Guys,

    I'd like you to take a look at the following circuit. It is powered by 3V or 6V. With 3V on the input you get 80V out and with 6V you get 200V out. I know that the transistor (JE200, not 2N3502) produces the AC signal and amplifies the voltage, but what does the transformer do? I want to power it with a 9V battery and have an adjustable potentiometer from 200V to 0V. Can someone explain how I calculate the correct potentiometer value?

    Thanks!
     
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  2. beenthere

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    Is that milliamps or volts?
     
  3. ELECTRONERD

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    I made a mistake, with a 3V input you get 80V out and with a 6V input you get 200V out. The actual circuit only consumes 70mA at 3V and 250mA at 6V. Now that I think about it, I'll bet the transistor produces the AC and the transformer amplifies the voltage...hope i'm right. I'm still not sure how to calculate the correct pot value...
     
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  4. ELECTRONERD

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    Can someone show me how to do the correct potentiometer? Thx!
     
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  5. ELECTRONERD

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    Nevermind! I figured it out once more, apparently the minimum current a person can feel is 1mA. So I'm going to use a 500K pot - 200V/500,000 = 0.4mA. This should work fine. Below you'll find the changed circuit:
     
  6. Audioguru

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    How many little 9V batteries are you going to power it with? Its current will far exceed the small amount of current available from a 9V battery.

    The transformer applies positive feedback so that the circuit oscillates and the transformer steps up the voltage.

    Your pot has nothing to do with current through a person. If the value of the pot is too high then the circuit simply will not work.
     
  7. ELECTRONERD

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    Thanks Audioguru,

    I suppose I'll have to install a DC-DC converter... What pot value would you suggest? Not sure how to do it since I dont know the current...
     
  8. ELECTRONERD

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    Hey Guys,

    Do any of you know of a 3V input 6V 250mA ouput DC-DC converter? I also need to know how to calculate what pot I need on the output of this circuit.
     
  9. Audioguru

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    You do not need a DC to DC converter and you do not need a potentiometer. Make the circuit the way it was designed and limit its output current with a resistor from its output to the person.
    Use a 6V battery.
     
  10. ELECTRONERD

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    Well, I am going to put it in a compact case so i dont know... I would like the pot to adjust the shock level from 0V to max.