Wiring relays for 2 voltage sources.

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  1. Ronnietlane

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    I have a 12v battery (lithium ion pack) and a 12v wall wart. I want the battery to give me a 12v output when the wallwart is not plugged in and the wallwart to give me a 12v output while charging my battery. I dont want to use normal toggles/push buttons to do this, i want it to be automatic. The best i could come up with is relays. Here is my wiring diagram. Will this work? Can you suggest another way of accomplishing this? Thanks in advance

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  2. mcgyvr

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  3. Picbuster

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    Mcgyvr, You are correct. However: as stated by you the Vf is affecting the output.
    Pfet could be used as a diode for this application gate to gnd (use a Vg>=20V I=10A int Rsd > 15mOhm ).
    10A @ 15mOhm=> 150mV and 100*15*10^-3 =1.5Watt
    Diode .6V approx 10*.6=6Watt ( agree som diodes do better)
     
  4. mcgyvr

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    I'd love to see a 10A @12V wallwart
    But yes a fet might be a better solution depending on the specifics of the OP's needs..

    Maybe the OP should just use a change over power jack (not sure if thats the right term) but a power jack that can disconnect another source upon insertion..
     
  5. Ronnietlane

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    Thanks for all the help. Ive seen those power jack at radio shack before, but didnt even think about it. Ill try one out.
     
  6. Alec_t

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    A 12V wallwart will not charge a 12V lithium battery pack safely. Lithium cells need a special charging profile to avoid overheating/fire risk. I suggest you visit www.batteryuniversity.com.
     
  7. Ronnietlane

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    Its a 12v pack that has a lithium charger built in.
     
  8. Dodgydave

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    One relay will do, you need a diode in series with the coil to the NC contact, to prevent the relay from being powered by the battery, the wallwart powers the coil only.
     
  9. Ronnietlane

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    I just didnt want to lose any voltage, but I guess 0.3V isnt much lol
     
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