Who here is a psychiatrist???/ pls PM me.

 

Not me, but if you ever take their habit forming, brain damaging psychotropic drugs, you need your head examined--pun intended.

Instead, check out alternative treatment--it works every bit as well, is cheaper and non-toxic. Check out the work of the late Abram Hoffer, pioneer in orthomolecular medicine.

 

I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.

 

as someone interested in human well-being - what jimkeith said. And often alternative treatment means getting to know yourself better, no-one can help you with that.

 

I'll believe all that 'alternative' stuff when a peer reviewed paper, proving its effects are not placebo, is a published. Until then, I would probably trust what ever my doctor gives to me. Especially as it would have to be verified by the NHS.

 

I'll believe all that 'alternative' stuff when a peer reviewed paper, proving its effects are not placebo, is a published. Until then, I would probably trust what ever my doctor gives to me. Especially as it would have to be verified by the NHS.

20 years ago I'd agree, today healthcare is a money making machine where they want everyone on earth on antidepressants and anything else they can get money from. Big pharma's gotten out of control the past decade. It really got bad once they lobbied enough to get the tv advertising ban removed. Thats why you see COPD, viagra, cialis, and every other drug on tv ever 10 to 15 min. I think this is almost subliminal to get people to ask their doctor for pills they think they need cause the TV told them so. My uncles a doctor in a small WV town. When prozac came out he basically made millions and millions prescribing the whole town prozac. Also many Dr.s get kickbacks. A friend was a pharma rep and she would contantly be giving Dr's free samples, gift cards, cruises, flights, etc.. All your typical bribe stuff that you can't prove in court.

 

To add to what maxpower said, it's in the dental world too. The dentist recommends you brush your teeth 3X a day with toothpaste that has silica (sandblasting medium) in it, which wears down the natural protective enamel on your teeth, causing cavities. Then you go back to the dentist. I've brushed my teeth once per day (in the morning) since I was old enough to brush my own teeth. I never had a cavity until last year, I had one. My wife brushes her teeth at least 3X per day, sometimes more, and her mouth is full of cavities. 2 years ago she had to get like 6 fillings. She just had to have 2 root canals with crowns and it would have cost 8500$ with no insurance. Even with the insurance I had to set up a payment plan. My mom says 20 years ago you could get that done for 20$.

 

To add to what maxpower said, it's in the dental world too. The dentist recommends you brush your teeth 3X a day with toothpaste that has silica (sandblasting medium) in it, which wears down the natural protective enamel on your teeth, causing cavities. Then you go back to the dentist. I've brushed my teeth once per day (in the morning) since I was old enough to brush my own teeth. I never had a cavity until last year, I had one. My wife brushes her teeth at least 3X per day, sometimes more, and her mouth is full of cavities. 2 years ago she had to get like 6 fillings. She just had to have 2 root canals with crowns and it would have cost 8500$ with no insurance. Even with the insurance I had to set up a payment plan. My mom says 20 years ago you could get that done for 20$.

Agreed dental costs too are out of control completely. No one without insurance has any hope of real dental care. Dentist don't care because of the society we live in. Its all about money money money. Thats why national health care scares the hell out of the super rich because they made much of their money from the healthcare system. By either ripping off medicare like our Gov Rick "Voltimore" Scott, or by investing in insurances companies.

 

The only thing is that now pretty much everyone (incl alternative) wants to rip you off, you have to take care of yourself, doctors are no longer there for you, I had to find that out the hard way.

 

The only thing is that now pretty much everyone (incl alternative) wants to rip you off, you have to take care of yourself, doctors are no longer there for you, I had to find that out the hard way.

Me 2 and then some. I had to goto the ER twice this year and was treated like total crap. Acting like I was making up my symptoms, meanwhile I'm freaking out. Basically they ran a blood test which shows I had a high white cell count meaning I had an infection somewhere in my body. Xray, and EKG. Then sent me home saying they just thought it was stress and see my doctor ASAP to get a stress test to be sure. Took 2 weeks to get into my provider which is the hospital I was at even after they gave me their REDCARD thats supposed to make you be the next patient seen. Its supposed to be their emergency card so you don't wait like a normal person. Well I saw that doc, they did another blood test and came back with same results. I asked to have a stress test or see a cardio and she said she couldn't give me a referral because the computer said my symptoms and test results wouldn't allow the computer to do it. So then she lied on the computer saying I had emphesima in order to get me a pulmanary function test. This have gotten better and better over time and best guess now is that I burned my esophogus lining causing random acute chest pains. Symptoms came on quick too. One day I was sitting there and felt like someone hit me in the chest with a baseball bat for 1/4 seconds. Like you got the wind knocked out of you. It got really bad for about 3-4 weeks till the initial test results for the PFT came back good. Then they started to lighten and get better but I still got em bad occasionally. Then by chance I started taking 1 zantag a day for the past 2 weeks and have only had 1 mild attack, where as before I could count on at least a medium attack every day.

 

BTW I PM'd the OP and he's ok, doesn't seem to be anything like an emergency just wanted a lil advice.

 

good story... I found myself sitting in the hospital for 6 hours after a seizure. One ER doctor order a CT scan because I hit my head pretty bad (had to have stitches). Hours go by, I start running around to check if I can go home and ask whether someone has looked at my scans - there was a shift change - someone told me yes, they are fine. The story ends like this, I get constant headaches for 6 months, my doctor ignores them as they are a side-effect of my med blah blah, eventually I finally push through to my neurologist (he is actually OK), long story short, he never got that scan, nobody has actually ever looked at it and people at the hospital lied. I ended up in surgery... Fun

 

Sounds like US medical care at its finest.

 

Maxpower, sounds like a severe case of gastroesophageal reflux which needs attention from your doctor. I had mine treated through medication and modification of diet, eating habits and sleeping posture.

 

With just about everything in life, you have good and bad. Are you really going to put down an entire worldwide profession just because of one bad experience?

As I said earlier, there is no proof that "alternative" works. When there is, then I'll believe the hippies.

 

With just about everything in life, you have good and bad. Are you really going to put down an entire worldwide profession just because of one bad experience?

No, just nation wide. It's not just one bad experience. The entire system over here if damned. Damn the hippocratic oath, our doctors only see green.

When I was in the Philippines I had lots of visits to the doctor for myself, wife, and daughter, and favorable experiences. At first we were going to government subsidized cheap clinics but I soon realized that the doctors there paid for their degrees and really didn't know what they were talking about. I strongly suspect that they googled the symptoms we described and came back with online diagnoses. Then we started going to private doctors for the "rich", which even then the bill for all services was only a fraction of my American doctor's visit insurance copay. Here in America the medical sector is completely sodomizing the public and has been for years.

Going back to my wife's dental work, she had 2 root canals done in the philippines when we lived there. I think I paid about 120$ to have it done in one of the best well-known and well reviewed dentist offices in Manila. If my wife needs any more dental work done after I quit my job and lose my insurance, it would quite literally cost me a only fraction of the cost of doing it down the street at the subpar dentist, if I flew her to the other side of the planet and had it done by a superstar dentist. And that's exactly what I'm going to do if it comes down to it. It was almost cost effective for me to do it with insurance. The bill was 8500 without insurance, and 1800 with insurance. A round trip ticket to Manila is about 1500-2500 depending on season & advance purchase.

If anybody here needs thousands of dollars worth of dental work done, I suggest you go there. Hell, even medical. Need life saving surgery? don't go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to get it here, go to the Philippines and get it done for the price of a used honda CRX. If you're of the mind that you'd be going to a "3rd world" country and getting "subpar" service, consider that the Philippines' hottest export is doctors & nurses. Next time you go to the hospital, look around; lots of Filipinos scurrying around behind those wheelchair accessible automatic double doors. Ask them, they went to medical school in the philippines.

The reason it's gotten to this point in America is the boiled frog. I relate it to credit. Used to be that you could only sell a car for what it's worth. in 1965 the price of a brand new mustang was about 2000$ and the median yearly income was 7000$, so the car cost 28% of the median income. In 2012 the the price of a brand new mustang is about 25000$ for base model and the median income is 46000$, so the car cost 54% of the median income. They can sell the same car for twice the price in 2012 because people need not have the cash in hand. They just walk up and sign on the line and for the next 5 years a digital leach sucks the life out them every paycheck. figure in 7.5% interest for 5 years and the car actually costs 36000, or 78% of the median income (3X what it costed in 1965). It's the same with health care. Used to be, you needed something done, and the doctor/dentist had to do it at a reasonable price or else you simply wouldn't/couldn't have the work done. Nowadays people have medical insurance siphoned out of their paychecks before they even see the money and they don't feel a thing - leaches have that numbing effect. So everybody has insurance, so the doctors can charge whatever the hell they want to, and the insurance pays. Well, then the insruance charges a little more every year for the the same service, which allows the doctors to charge a little more every year for the same service, which causes the insurance to charge a little more, and so on. It's a gradual boild frog thing that nobody seems to feel the effect of until you wake up one day and realize WTF is going on here!?!?! it costs 8500$ for 2 root canals?!?!

 

Sorry, I read it too broadly.

I agree, some of those treatments look terribly expensive.

An empire or a NHS... I'd choose the NHS looking at those prices lol!

 

They're implementing a NHS here as well. The American NHS isn't going to make the problem go away, it's simply going to move the problem from one area (working citizens paying for THEIR OWN private insurance) to another area (working citizens paying for EVERYONE'S private insurance). This country's policies are for sale to the highest bidder, and big pharma is a pretty high bidder. This NHS will do nothing to stop the ever-inflating price of health care; in fact, it will make it worse, as everybody will be MANDATED to pay the premiums.

 

Interesting report on our national newsreel other day about women and mammograms. They suggested that out of 100 women recieving regular mammograms, that 1 was saved from death, and that 10 where improperly diagnosed and treated with cancer where none exsisted. Even normal people have abnormal days.

 

With just about everything in life, you have good and bad. Are you really going to put down an entire worldwide profession just because of one bad experience?

As I said earlier, there is no proof that "alternative" works. When there is, then I'll believe the hippies.

Sorry was quoting the gastroreflux comment.
I Agree I'm seeing my doctor next week. I've already adjusted my diet when it started so it seems to be getting better. Hopefully I can find a good medication other then an OTC one.