What type of stepper motor is this?

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  1. hspalm

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    Hi.
    I disassembled an inkjet printer and found three of these babies.
    http://hpstuff.no/bilgalleri/IMAG0065.jpg
    http://hpstuff.no/bilgalleri/IMAG0065.jpg
    http://hpstuff.no/bilgalleri/IMAG0065.jpg
    I apologize for the big pictures.

    I am familiar with 4, 5 and 5 wire steppers, but this has only three wires. If I remember correctly, I think all of the three motors were grounded to the chassis in the printer. Some guy at school suggested this to be a 3-phase stepper motor, to be driven with three 1/2-H-bridges, but I don't see how to wire and design a driver circuit?

    So instead of
    1100
    0110
    0011
    1001

    then
    100
    010
    001
    ???

    Thank you!
     
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  3. hspalm

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    Okay, lets see

    These are the only markings
    http://hpstuff.no/bilgalleri/IMAG0066.jpg

    TYPE 103-5305-0641
    127E83391
    2.2A 3.75 degrees/step
    LOT NO. 06312F (different on all three, not surprised)
    SANYO DENKI
    Made in Indonesia
     
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    Here is the drivers for Sanyo Denki 3 wire steppers. It shows patters for control:
    http://www.q-tech.hu/pdf/SanyoDenki/3 phase/3ph katalogus.pdf

    These are 3phase, 3 wire steppers. They require a controller capable of taking a standard PWM signal and converting into what the 3 phase can understand. It also uses techniques to hold the motor and such. These options are not a effect of the motor, but of the control.
    Sanyos Website for their Denki department:
    http://www.sanyo-denki.com/Data/Servo/catalogs/F3_ver1.pdf
     
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  5. SgtWookie

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    You should not have removed the end of the motor. Alignment is critical to it's proper operation.

    Hope you didn't throw out the rest of the printer yet. All of the circuits that were needed to drive the motors are still on board. You just need to figure out where they are.
     
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  6. hspalm

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    I threw it out many months ago, i regret that now, of course....

    Retched: Thank you very much for the information, I will read this thoroughly now that I realize I had a golden opportunity to just pull the driver-electronics straight out of the printer.
     
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    SgtWookie; I seem to have not seen your reply, thank you also for your comment.

    I have an additional question about the motors:
    When I connect the motors to my 20 volt power supply, the ps say the motor draws 5.6 amps, and the voltage on the display drops to about 8 volts. Is not this very much? Is this the "stall current" of my stepper motor? The coils are energized as discribed in the table in pdf posted above.

    Edit: When I look closer at this document
    http://www.q-tech.hu/pdf/SanyoDenki/3 phase/3ph katalogus.pdf
    I see that my motor is specified as 1.8 A per phase. As I only energize one phase per step, this means I should get a amperage reading of 1.8 when I supply the correct amount of voltage? I reach this value at 5.4 volts. On the graph at page 24 of the pdf it says:
    Source voltage: DC24V·Operating current: 1.8A/phase, 2-phase energization (full step)
    This is for the model closest to mine. How do they energize two phases at one time? Or am I doing it already? Using the table at page 23. If I, when supplying 20 volts, reach 5.6 amps. Should not this be more like 3.6 amps if energizing 2 phases (if 24 volts, like stated, is the correct voltage)? My power supply is limited to 20 volts.

    Edit 2:
    I will need two of this L6234 per motor? As they are 3 x 1/2 H-bridge, and I need one bridge per phase. By the way, I am pretty impressed of the specs, 5 amps peak, wow.
     
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