What type of battery should I choose?

Discussion in 'Power Electronics' started by Rafa Sperati, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. Rafa Sperati

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    Hello! my name is Rafael Sperati and I'm from Brazil.

    I'm working on a project to record videos of a Roller Coaster ride.

    I have it all done but the last part that is the power supply.

    I must feed a 12v / 11w camera for up to 10 hours, and I also need the battery to support the trepidation, turning around, shaking coming from the Roller Coaster and be the smaller as it can be. I'm thinking about buy a 14ah Battery, this way it will never get full discharged.

    So the real question is: What type of battery should I choose?

    - 14 ah or more;
    - Supports turning around, shaking, vibrations;
    - Smaller as it can be.
     
  2. MaxHeadRoom

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    LiPo are pretty small for their capacity.
    What is the physical limits you are looking for?
    Max.
     
  3. Rafa Sperati

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    I don't have specified physical limits determined, You must imagine that its going to be flying upon peoples heads and amusement parks have solid security rules, so this way I must appear with somenting discrete.

    I'm not sure about using LiPo batteries, I read about the explosion risks, and they are too expensive.

    I was thinking about someting like this LiFePO4 battery:
    https://www.amazon.com/Shorai-LFX14L2-BS12-Extreme-Lithium-Powersports/dp/B005FIUJ0S

    But I never used this type of battery, and I don't know if its going to support being discharged and charged everyday.
     
  4. ian field

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    Lithium is going to be the smallest and lightest, you can purchase a charger that automatically balances the cells for best possible safety.

    Its pretty much a consequence of lithium cells having such high energy density - if something does go wrong; its a lot of energy escapes in a small space.

    A second choice would be Ni-Cd - they're getting harder to come by because of the toxicity of cadmium. Ni-Mh have at least 2x the mAh capacity per cell size, but higher internal resistance - they can't handle high current draw.

    SLA batteries are tried and trusted, but bulky and heavy. They are easily ruined if left discharged for any length of time.
     
  5. Dr.killjoy

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    What about using 18650 cells or similar ??
     
  6. Rafa Sperati

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    Hello guys! after researching a lot I decided to use a LiFePO4 Battery. They are extremely small and light and support more charging cycles. They are expensive but at the end it worth because of their lifetime.

    In this case I choose a LiFePO4 Sports Motorcycle Battery to support all the vibrations coming from the Roller Coaster.

    Thanks!
     
  7. ian field

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    Most modern motorcycles don't vibrate any worse than most cars, but the battery is probably a pretty good choice.

    You could buy individual cells and design the mounting/packaging to withstand high levels of vibration for lower cost - the important thing is to buy a charger that automatically balances series cells.
     
  8. BobTPH

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    This part worries me a bit. How heavy is the battery? Do you expect it to be included on the unit attached to the head? Given the forces involved, keeping it on would be a real challenge. If I were running the roller coaster there is no way I would allow it.

    Bob
     
  9. Rafa Sperati

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    Well I changed my project camera to a less consumption one, this way I can use a 7ah Battery. I choose a Aliant YLP07 Battery, that gives me 2 years of Warranty.
    This battery dimensions are 114mm x 40mm x 98mm, very small for a 7ah, and weights 450g, thats pretty good.

    Remembering that this Battery is design for sports, like extreme enduro.

    What you guys think about this battery?
     
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