What to implement for gaining experience in control loop?

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  1. atferrari

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    I intend to gain hands-on experience in control loops (of the PID type). At this stage, op amps to be used.

    I am looking for suggestions (the easiest / simplest / cheapest / quickest) on two concrete points:

    1) a "plant" that I could implement on my bench.

    2) way of tracking ( eventually recording) set point - system output - error - time. If things go not too fast, I guess I could do it manually but not really sure.

    After reading a lot, starting with Bob Pease, I concluded that something related to temperature control or motor speed are the best candidates. Have read about a pendulum but sounds complex to start with so I discarded it already.

    Suggestions appreciated.
     
  2. MaxHeadRoom

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    If you search in Mit.Edu they have some brief on line courses outlining motor control and PID loop using op amps.
    Max.
     
  3. Sensacell

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    A thermal system is a really easy choice.
    Get a nice big aluminum heatsink, bolt some big power resistors to it (heaters) and attach a temp sensor.

    You can play around with fans and such to change the characteristics of the 'plant'.
     
  4. alfacliff

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    if controling a motor, you need a form of feedback for rpm. a tach generator, or rotary scale. the rotary scale could also be used to control the position of the motor shaft. then the usual comparator and amplifier.
     
  5. atferrari

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    Thanks to you all for replying.

    I decided to go the temperature-control way. Simpler to start. Now, I am implementing the sensor/s (DS1820) Dearly expensive but available. >8USD ea!!! Nice country this, eh?

    Something I do not know how to manage yet: say I want to fix the setpoint for 30ºC. What I will be having is just a pot able to span from +XxV to -XxV. How to make voltage there to correspond to actual 30ºC (or whatever)?

    Is much easier to say I am working on a certain temperature range than a certain voltage range, otherwise I risk to be confused. Any simple idea to solve this?
     
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  6. atferrari

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    Hola Max,

    I cannot quote your message. :(

    I tried the MIT site but found impossible to spot them. Too much offer and I seem to lack the magic words to do the right search. Maybe I will reread Bob Pease even twice again. :D
     
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