What is with kids these days?

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  1. DerStrom8

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    Hi everyone. Prepare yourself for another rant :p

    So as many of you already know, I work at a university as a lab assistant, though I get around a bit now (as opposed to a year ago when I first started working there). The time has come for students to begin their housing selection, which is all done online now. The online selection is new, so there are several bugs, and I've been asked about many of them.

    Well yesterday a student was having trouble with his selection, and he sent me an email asking about it. This is the text from the first email:

    I read it a few times, trying to understand it, but I honestly couldn't. I sent him a reply saying I couldn't understand what he was asking. I politely asked him to re-type it in full english sentences, and I would do my best to answer his question for him. He returned the email with

    I was somewhat stunned at this point, and I was asking myself WHAT JUST HAPPENED. I sent him another email saying that it was not in full english sentences, and that it was a mix and mash of words and mismatched verbs, and no punctuation whatsoever. I told him that it was just very difficult to understand, and I repeated my offer for him to try to re-write it so that I could understand and try to help.

    The next email is one I will not quote due to language, but in essence was telling me that I'm an a--hole.

    Seriously, what is with kids nowadays? Is it really that hard to write in FULL ENGLISH SENTENCES? This student isn't even of foreign descent, and he still can't write.

    For that matter, what is with the schools? When I went to college, they were more difficult to get admitted to. They required rigorous testing, including ENGLISH exams. Why have the standards dropped so significantly as to allow such incompetent, sometimes idiotic students to attend? I know I shouldn't talk about students that way, but it seems to be the only way I can get my point across. They're coming into the school useless and they're leaving the school useless, but with a paper this time. What happened to the schools that actually HELPED the students LEARN, and PREPARE them for their futures? Has it all gone to h*ll just so the schools get more money--that they accept anyone who applies, just to get the money?

    Finally, what happened to respect? The students rarely respect their elders--parents, professors, ...lab assistants. Is it something having to do with how they were raised? Incompetent parents, raising them on television and/or video games? That's been a common topic on here before, and I've really started to see it myself. But does that really cause the students to disrespect those who are willing to take time out of their day to try to help them?

    I've seen this sort of thing in the past, but this generation seems to be the worst yet. What happened in the last 20 years to create such incompetent, immoral, impolite, disrespectful kids?

    I gotta say, I'm looking forward to getting a new job. This school (the disrespectful students especially) have used up just about all of my patience, and I can't wait to get out of here.

    /Rant over
     
  2. takao21203

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    Video games were exiciting and new in the 1980s.

    The bad manners eventually come from browsing XXX portals.

    Education system is just a big sieve. Not designed to teach things, but to sieve out human material. Naturally sometimes it works backwards, good people don't make it, the bad guys will get a degree and run a medical factory with actual birds nests and leaking roofs and piles of dirt. Only the tip of an iceberg.

    The education system also is corrupt, if they have money, they get in no matter what.

    you know if somethings wrong when you cant see your count time yet you have picked anything yet there was a spot open in trip 5 and and checked it off then all of of a sudden my time disappered next time refreshed

    Keep NE555 and company eventually as a twisterbait, 30 dollar circuit boards included will pile up and demotivate quite a few people from going any further.
     
  3. tindel

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    Everything in American society is about the benji's and how many you do/don't have. Don't forget that. It will keep everything in perspective.
     
  4. Georacer

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    In my country, that saw an artificial economic flourishing in the 80s and 90s, many people came to believe that they have a right in luxury and privileges.

    Hard times have now come and people still haven't laid off that habit.
     
  5. tshuck

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    Not sure I'd attribute the current generation's lack of aptitude and common courtesy to just pornography, but that may play a role.

    I feel like our culture has been, for decades, moving to this point. The music these days glorifies the outsider, the outlaw, so to speak. Rap in particular has some of the most violent/disrespectful lyrics I have ever heard. Our culture is defined by what it values most, yet time and time again, we are proven that our culture values gossip, slander, violence, and disrespect. Just look at how many magazines at you local grocery store checkout lane have actual thoughts besides, "Who is cheating on who?", or "Whose baby is this?". Look at how much of the "news" is really news and not just people getting mangled or simply gossip.

    With the advent of texting, the English language has been butchered into a series of characters to represent complex thoughts, constrained within 140 characters. People whose primary communication is through text messages tend to not understand what a sentence is and how to interact with someone on a formal level.

    I can't believe the gall of that kid, to outright disrespect you for pointing out that his email wasn't English (having English words doesn't make it English). His incompetence will shine through soon enough and he will be disrespectful to the wrong person.

    There is nothing that you can do except to add it to your "this one time..." stories and move on.
     
  6. #12

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    It's just about illegal to spank a child now. When they see that the government has taken away the power of their parents, they just do and say whatever they want to, and you have less power than their parents!

    Personally, I have decided I am not in charge of punishment and I don't even try to educate them. I just assume that when they arrive at adulthood, completely unprepared, the world in general will will not pay them for their ignorance and attitude. My nephew is one of those. He is 42 years old now and struggles to afford to live in a mobile home park and have regular food. Still, he does not understand that this is related to smoking pot before every school day to assure that nothing educational transferred into his long term memory.
     
  7. Papabravo

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    Q: Why is an orange?
    A: A bicycle, because a vest has no sleeves.

    Arguably full sentences, but nonsense just the same.

    This was actually a joke once upon a time.
     
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  8. Sparky49

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    I lol'ed at that joke.:D

    Ah well.:rolleyes:
     
  9. takao21203

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    Smoking pot makes one lazy really. When I use it I really don't want even to leave the house and buy just anything.

    It is not a good idea to use it before work. I have really totally worked sometimes when I smoked, but it takes a lot of effort to go through this and discipline.

    Pot is something for the weekend when you don't want actually to work. Or for the trainstation after school.

    Like wine it is great fun sometimes and has great value- if you don't overdo it. When I had a bottle wine, I do not want to see it around for weeks to follow.

    Don't blame pot for lazy attitudes- I have actually worked when I really wanted to or had to.
     
  10. DerStrom8

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    Personally, I feel strongly that the recreational use of any drug, including marijuana, is bad. It damages the brain in the long term. It's not just some short-term thing that you get over. It's like how alcohol can scar the liver, but with the brain, and it takes less pot to scar the brain than it takes for alcohol to scar the liver. My advice to anyone and everyone: Don't use it. At all. Not ever. Unless it's for medical purposes with a prescription from a legitimate doctor.
     
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  11. t06afre

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    Any idea what he tried to tell you? I guess he/she was busy. Doing some homework, watching a TV show, listening to radio, posting status on Twitter. All this while at the same time as doing housing selection. Can you blame them
     
  12. DerStrom8

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    It was a bug within the selection system, that's as much as I was able to gather.
     
  13. takao21203

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    There is no scientific proof for such an actual brain cell damage. It is an urban myth and/or propaganda.

    Who is saying MJ is a drug? It is made and called a drug. It is not having that much effect when you are used to it.

    From alcohol you can pretty well vomit or close to that after 1/2 bottle. And some spirits contain fusel oils as well traces of methanol- big headache.

    pot to scar the brain

    And how is that going to happen actually?

    I have learned C language recently my brain still works 100%.

    Particulary in America, the young generation these days has a problem the so-called new world does not have cultural roots. They do not have proper values except those instilled from MTV and perhaps from the softwares they download. Urban decay added, it is a matter of statistics how many dropouts this will create.

    Of course they smoke pot, but that is not the cause of the problem. If it won't be the pot, they'd freak on something else.

    If anything really creates scars in the brain then it is so-called "meth".

    The kids from rich families can cover up this lack of roots with their money, and in some cases, with their archievements.

    Look at silicon valley. Bill Gates smoked MJ actually. Bill Clinton did and Obama as well. Where are these brain scars for real?
     
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  14. t06afre

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    Show some respect here, at least Bill said he did not inhale:p
     
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  15. DerStrom8

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    I really thought you knew better than that, takao. Arguing that marijuana doesn't cause damage. Really?

    Anyway, since you asked:

    http://www.medicaldaily.com/article...mage-memory-learning-drug-habit-addiction.htm
    http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-your-brain-body
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130206131042.htm
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...egular-marijuana-use-damages-teenage-brains-0

    Those are just a few to get you started.
     
  16. takao21203

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    1. All long term heavy users show some kind of phenomena or symptoms. If it is artificial sweetener, junk food, or regular medication or uranium dust from mining.

    I'd like you to watch this video and think again. There you see some real world DNA damage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbR00_W4gEo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfulqRdDbsg

    2. Our understanding of marijuana's long-term brain effects is limited. Research findings on how chronic cannabis use affects brain structure, for example, have been inconsistent. It may be that the effects are too subtle for reliable detection by current techniques

    That is THEIR words.

    3. A girl died from a caffeine energy drink. If you smoke MJ and your heart beat remains normal, it is simply not affecting you. People with certain conditions actually will suffer seriously from medications and even certain foods.

    4. with heavy users dropping as much as 8 IQ points

    IQ tests are nonsense they do not measure intelligence, creativity, or good personality. They are kind of 1950s psychiatry.

    Heavy users of anything will suffer. The fact that it is only 8% prooves that MJ is harmless.

    Who is saying you must use it heavily?

    Who is saying you must drink 1/2 bottle whiskey every evening?

    The point is and that is how they lie to people, they never really explain: WHAT IS HEAVY USE?

    It could be any amount.

    In the videos you can also encounter the neglect and cover up and arrogance of so-called government agencies. Not USA, but anyway.

    If you put the link from that I'd be against nuclear energy, you are wrong. I did not say that. If I say the gov. does neglect and cover up and is arrogant, I'd have evidence and that makes me in no way anti gov.

    The US gov. is currently considering to drop MJ prohibition all together.
     
  17. tshuck

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    I think we found another source as to the effects of drugs....:p

    When you quote something, be sure to leave it within the context. It goes on to say:
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    To claim that marijuana use doesn't affect you is foolish, the point of smoking it is to affect your brain!
    At the very least, it causes your short-term memory capabilities to become compromised.
     
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  18. DerStrom8

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    I'm not going to argue with you. You are stuck in your ways, as am I in mine. Nothing you can say will change my mind that smoking marijuana is unhealthy and potentially dangerous.

    Moderators, would you be willing to move everything after, say, post #12 (post 13 and on) to a different thread? This is not the discussion I wanted to get into, and if you ask me it's a waste of time. Thanks.

    Matt
     
  19. maxpower097

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    To be fair getting high on marijuana kills the same amount of brain cells as sneezing(which is none). If you look through out history you'll find most of our brightest and best minds have been terrible drug addicts. Plus drinking does way more long term damage to mind and body then marijuana. Which by all the real studies show is nearly harmless and the worst effect is lack of motivation. Remember medicinal marijuana studies were banned in the US till like 2000. So no real long term studies exist except for the tons of 70 year old life time pot heads runnign around, and tend to be much sharper minded then their counterparts.

    About your posts most say they still need to be verified. So that give little comfort. The others just state the obvious. Saying smoking pot increases stroke risk in young adults, thats cause its smoking anything is bad for your health. If you eat it those issues go away.
     
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  20. takao21203

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    Well you asked to raise the issue of today's kid's.

    Once someone has the balls to go into the matter, you don't want it anymore.

    I respect you as a forum member and discussion partner and I don't maintain any opinion or judgement about you.

    But in your reply above, don't you just only want to promote your hardened opinion, but then you refuse to step into the matter?

    I have seen some disenchanted youths here on the streets, and MJ for sure is not the reason. The system is the reason, from the church abuses to the dysfunctional education.

    What is with kids these days?

    Thread title.

    I sometimes have the opinion on forums really only Q&A is wanted, not discussion with different viewpoints.

    Not thinking about this forum, just saying. It is really a tendency.

    I also want to make clear I am not a heavy MJ consumer. All I use is small regular cigarettes with something in it. Maybe every two weeks, sometimes nothing for months. I did even quit for nearly ten years.

    I do not have to care about addiction or heavy use symptoms as this is not affecting me.

    Talking about today's kid's, yesterday about 1987, SEGA came to our town. I saw it myself in the 1980s appearing, SEGA Nintendo and all that, and at some point, it disappeared again from the shops.

    I am yesterdays's kids a bit and still can remember it quite well.
     
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