waveguide enthusiast

Discussion in 'Physics' started by XP3Scorpion, Apr 5, 2004.

  1. XP3Scorpion

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    Hello I am a waveguide enthusiast. I have been designing my own waveguide technology, which includes resonant cavities, optical coupling, slotted line antenna, grounding planes etc... However I am building an energy conversion system vs. a communications device by using the waveguide antenna to excite capacitors in a tank circuit, which discharge across a set of spark gap electrodes that I then use to excite a twin set of radio cavities, which energize a bank of huge plate capacitors, impedance matching is via a set of spiral antennas connected to a delta antenna set in parabolic reflector dish.

    I built a model of the device unfortunately the waveguide is a hack job, thou I do get a signal from 100-180 MHz on the frequency counter, and my transformer is pretty crappy too as I don't have the where with all to obtain the correct sized ferrite beads for my matrix transformer, so I just put the beads on a single loop and laid the two secondary along side the ferrite beads. I did try energizing the then with a HV ion emitter source though and all of the components would light a fluorescent bulb when near of touching any of the components in the circuit.

    Just wondering if you would want to help out by discussing waveguide concepts. I have tried to discus these concepts in other forums but they seem to think that I am building a device that will misappropriate energy from the local TV or Radio transmission towers but this just is not the case in fact I am tuning to the atomic transition frequency and not the local transmission towers.

    btw Anyone know if a waveguide antenna can be inductively coupled to a transformer? :unsure:

    Thank you

    Robert A. Patterson
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  2. Battousai

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    I would definitley like to discuss waveguides however I'm not a waveguide expert. I only know the basics which I picked up in an E&M class I took a few years ago. Now I do understand their analog in electronics, the tranmission line pretty well.
     
  3. XP3Scorpion

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    Thanks for the comments...

    Waveguides aren't just transmission lines but rather due to there design complexities make-up complete Resonant Inductive Capacitive Circuitry...


    I started out with 2-cavities from several old C-band dish antennas and joined the sections of the resonant cavities together at their choke joints, milled several apertures or holes, along with a groove in the choke joint, and a set of slotted line antenna in the floor of the waveguide to act as my atom trap and optically coupled photons into the waveguide with a set of lens apertures. I fabricated a multi-element transformer form ferrite beads with spark gap switching.

    The design concept is modeled after Nikola Tesla, Moray and Plauson's "Radiant Energy Converters", its the forbidden free energy technology that academia claims as impossible.

    Funny thing about splitting the atom is you get lots of free energy...

    See QED, Cavity-QED, Atom-Coupled Optical Waveguides, ZPE

    Primarily the focal length or optical coupling is equivalent to the size of an atom i.e. the focal point is one atom across at the focal length of the lens, and trapped via the dipole effect of the slotted line antenna, also take into consideration the polarization or rotation of the light wave, e.g. when the light is focused to a point you have this shape "V" plus the rotation which effectively causes the wave to spin in the manner of a vortex, hence there is an implosion, or inversion of energy into the waveguide. In other words the energy is caused to cohere and corkscrew itself into the waveguide...

    An associative analogy would be to compare the low frequency with that of a small valve on a spray-can i.e. the small valve atop the spray-can controls a larger pressure likewise the low frequency controls the high frequency pressure in this energy conversion system.

    Interesting aspects of atomic behavior in the presence of strong driving fields appear when the driven atom resides not in free space, but in a region (such as an optical cavity) that displays a frequency-dependent photon-mode density. Optical excitation provides an important means of controlling the internal state of quantum systems. Optical sources are important to areas such as quantum state preparation, quantum computing and coherent control.


    Cavity atoms experience significant squeezing under the influence of strong driving fields. These squeezing effects are intrinsically connected to the polarization of dressed state populations by tuning the cavity appropriately close to the atomic transition frequency we may induce a non-vanishing inversion of the dressed-state's setting the standard for optimal conditions for atomic squeezing.


    This mechanism is associated with the coupling of the atom to the zero point electromagnetic fields, empty-cavity transmission resonances are found to split in the presence of the atoms and under these conditions the cavities temporal responses are found to be oscillatory.
     
  4. Dave

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    Hi,

    While a lot of what you've said goes over my head, it does sound an interesting field of research. Have you any pictures of your model you decribed?
     
  5. XP3Scorpion

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  6. Optikon

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    With all due respect to the Author and his company, I have a hard time believing any of the notions mentioned on the website. I found alot of jargon and no science / engineering to speak of. My intention is not to offend but rather to caution all readers to be careful and make up their own minds based on science and engineering principles. Those who cannot present this, necessarily do not understand the real science involved.

    A Van getting 598 MPG because of one of these designs? I would think that if that were the case, this company would have all the funding it needed from the auto manufacturers and would not release this information until it hit the commercial market.

    If people are to buy-into all this, the Author needs to present in a clear and scientific way, how he accomplishes such feats. I'm not trying to flame the guys website, but my opinion is it belongs more in the niche of anti-gravity, free energy, UFO niche than to be taken seriously.

    What is all this about?
     
  7. XP3Scorpion

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    I can understand your skepticism. The three of us that tested the wing still don't believe it either. Interestingly we learned that in order to maintain those high mileage's the wing's pitch angel would have to be computer controlled and constantly adjusted on the fly for maximum efficiencies, as well as monitoring the fuel usage so that the computer could seek the best mileage's depending on the driving conditions, e.g. number of passengers and other environmental factors such as relative wing speed etc... I have solid mounted RIW's on my van it yields 3-times the normal mileage i.e. I went from 10-mpg to 23-mpg driving sustained speeds in excess of 70-mph

    The RIW is a vortex generator in the truest sense of the word i.e. when the RIW is ram-fed it creates a multi-suction-head in the form of multi-vortex action due to its selective geometric shaping. Conversely conventional aircraft produce drag in the form of wing tip vortices and due to their incorrect placement pull backwards in an antagonistic manner on the craft, note also that this drag is induced by the forward motion of the craft through the air. The RIW is unique in that it utilize wing tip vortices in the form of a rotating motor i.e. the air is the rotor and the wing is the stator.

    btw I don't have company I'm just one person and I just filed my patent application on Nov. 23, 2003 and went public seeking funding assistance.

    Tell me just how much information I'm supposed to give away to satisfy your skepticism i.e. with all due respect?
     
  8. Hamster

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  9. XP3Scorpion

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    I am not sure just what the patent number is yet, as I just submitted my claim on Nov. 24, 2003 and have not received my first notification of acceptance or rejection. The only documentation I have is the check stub, the post card, and the return receipt card dated Nov. 24, 2003 from the USPTO and also the Express Mail receipt.

    In the meantime...


    Open Challenge to All Put Up Or Shut Up

    Instead of comparing me with scam artists, just because I wrote a book seeking funding for my discoveries. I challenge any and everyone to come here and fit my wing to a pickup truck or a van with a luggage rack on the top, otherwise we would have to drill mounting holes in the trunk of your car in order to mount the Ram Implo-Wing. It might also be possible to mount the wing on a tow hitch receiver. Also its best if your vehicle has twin gas tanks so that we can run one tank empty and verify your mileage on a single gallon of gasoline then retest with the RIW fitted to your vehicle and set the wing's pitch angle for maximum mileage and efficiencies.

    Its your vehicle, your test run, you pump the one gallon of gas, so you'll be in charge of everything except, wing mounting and adjustments and I reserve the right to ride shotgun. Also you will be responsible for purchasing any gas and all the needed hardware to mount the wing to your vehicle, note I have successfully mounted several different wings to vans and pickups for less than $20. bucks...

    TSM@brightok.net


    Robert A. Patterson
    Engineering Specialist
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  10. Hamster

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    What degrees do you hold, where and when did you receive them? If you are self educated how did you go about doing this? If you send me the 20 dollars and a van with two gas tanks maybe I will think about trying the experiment. Maybe I will keep the van and the 20 bucks. You are fast with words can you back theory with math. If so you might have a chance to gain my respect.

    Hamster
     
  11. XP3Scorpion

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    Theory?

    How ironic, I show you a practical application of the technology that I am developing i.e. an actual working piece of hardware, conversely a theory is something you are working on from a piece of paper, that means your plans are still on the drawing board i.e. if you have even gotten that far... Doha!

    BSRF Research Files http://www.borderlands.com/


    Implosion The Secret of Viktor Schauberger
    Complied by Tom Brown
    Part 1) The Path of Natural Energy
    Part 2) More Implosion then Explosion
    Pat 3) Viktor's Austrian Patens
    Translated from German by Jorge Resines


    Viktor Schauberger and his discoveries
    by Leopold Brandstatter


    Implosion At First Hand from the 1977 July-Aug
    Journal of Borderland Research
    by Riley Crabb


    Viktor Schauberger and his work from the 1979 May-June
    Journal of Borderland Research
    by Albert Zock


    Nature Was My Teacher by Viktor Schauberger
    German Translation by Albert Zock


    Diffusion a la Viktor Schauberger
    by Albert Zock


    Integration of the Lifeblood of the Earth November 1953 PENDULUM (Vol. 4, No 2)
    by Ellen V. Wilmont Ware


    Secret of the Schauberger Saucers A theoretical Analysis
    by Jorge Resines


    V. Schauberger http://members.aon.at/pks.or.at/news_e.html


    New Energies Foundation Implosion Workshop Applied Vortex Mechanics by William Baumgartiner
    http://www.vortexscience.com/pages/about.html


    Vortex Technology V1-VOR 220-VOR 15 Articles concerning vortex science http://www.rexresearch.com/
    Rex Research



    Robert A. Patterson
    Engineering Specialist
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  12. Hamster

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    Every idea has a starting place. Engineers implement ideas by planning and using mathematics to model known events. If planning is not a part your of design. The only ability you have is the ability to tinker with ideas. Example let’s construct a building and then see if it falls down. If this is the case use fewer materials next time so the building doesn’t fall down. That would be and expensive way of doing things that’s why math is so well suited for design. Engineers plan and use a variety of tools to do this. One of these tools happens to be a piece of paper and a pencil. If I am confusing you I can repeat this. One of these tools happens to be a piece of paper and a pencil. Show the plans for your construction and the math that backs it up. Sometimes scientists have difficulties explaining experimental data. It could be a very small piece of data that has no explanation. When an explanation is found a breakthrough has occurred. Some of the greatest breakthroughs are made in this manner while the entire scientific community objects to ones ideas. I have a strong feeling you do not fit in this category. You can easily brush my skepticism to the side by providing all plans for your design.
     
  13. XP3Scorpion

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    Provide you with "all plans for my design"? A bit precocious of you my young friend, And you want your request on a silver platter too, no doubt. <---note this may be an oxymoron.

    Perhaps we should have the great invention/math off. Ill post all the inventions that were conceived via inspiration i.e. the mother of necessity and you post all the inventions that have been devised via mathematical equations...

    Robert A. Patterson
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    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  14. XP3Scorpion

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    With concern to education, one must approach knowledge as if it were a fantastic adventure, continually seeking the truth. No one can force you to learn, this is why you must force yourself, but it is hoped that your teachers will at least inspire you to take those first steps along your journey of discovery, seeking truth and knowledge...

    Suppose you discover some new truth, an equation that proves to you that ambient temperature superconductivity is a definite probability, now overjoyed you run to your best friend to spread the good news, but in telling your friend the news you discover his/her skepticism leads them into a dead-end, conversely your new truth leads you into a parallel path where many things suddenly become possible.

    Your first response to the negative rejection may well be one of anger. Therefor you go back to the drawing board and re-seek the same answers, albeit in a new format, i.e. let the negativity be your guide. After sometime of re-searching your discovery you begin to find coincident upon coincident leading to a resounding, synergistic concept. Once aging you attempt to divulge this path of discovery to your best friend, who once again rejects your ideas, angrily you go back to your research in search of truths.

    When suddenly things begin to click, and you start designing parallel inventions one right after the other, i.e. you find a niche or method of inventing that leads to the building of the ambient superconductive technology that your first equation provoked...as well as making discoveries that will ultimately cause the re-writing of history as we know it!

    With new belief in your discovery you seek funding e.g. DOD, NASA, DOE etc... Only to find your newfound technology rejected by yet more closed mindedness, which ultimately leads to a dead-end path. But with your faith in the "Great American Dream" you diligently press on and manage to fabricate several of your inventions.

    Low and Behold they work as predicted, and one of them even improves gas mileage 3-fold above the normal yield capacity of your vehicle and several other test vehicles, which has ultimately led to a repeatable experiment, and through your due diligence you compose and submit a patent application. Feeling somewhat secure in your knowledge you go public in search of like-minded people only to suffer more rejection at the hands of closed minded people despite your re-producible experiments.

    The most pungent sense of reality comes when you realize that you are truly on your own...

    Walk On...

    The moral to this story is: Ignorance is bliss



    Robert A. Patterson
    Engineering Specialist
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  15. beenthere

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    Lots of interesting stuff. My 1923 "Principles of Radio Communication" has a lot to say about coupling spark energy for radio communications. Filo T. Farnsworth did a lot of similar work on captive electrons in cavities with his fusor tube back in the 60's. An Italian scientist names Coanda, as I recall, did a great many designs with fluid flow.

    Good luck.

    By the way, 100 - 180 MHz is getting into the skin-effect region, but ordinary wires still work fine in this part of the rf spectrum. Wave guide generally isn't going to be significant until you get lots closer to the gigahertz region.

    An inductive coupling into a transformer is unnecessary - the transformer is itself an inductor, and the primary simply needs to be resonant at the applied frequency. In the 100 - 180 MHz region, there should be lots of stock hardware.
     
  16. XP3Scorpion

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    Thanks,

    I've actually made some progress i.e. I have been lighting broad spectrum fluorescent lamps with my Cavity-QED inverter technology. Although the device is only running at very low efficiencies, I discovered that the make-shift transformer I had assembled was in-deed working.

    First, during the on-time i.e. when the make-shift transformer was assembled into the QEG-circuitry and semi-operational, I became physically unconvertible, by bodies core temperature had risen several degrees due to the microwave irradiation that was emanating from the QED-waveguide/transformer and/or other select components embedded within the QEG-circuitry, e.g. coaxial magnetron cavities. After removing and dismantling the Matrix transformer my core temp soon returned to normal.

    I made this connection after assembling a second QED-waveguide, form surplus components sent to me by a fiend of mine, and after probing the new QED-waveguide with the ion detection meter and the RF counter, I gained near identical readings as the original QED-waveguide. I realized that the transformer was working when I picked up the fluorescent tube and it would no longer light, after having removed the transformer from the QEG-circuit-board, as well as the fact that my bodies temp had returned to normal.

    At any rate I've ordered new components and I am awaiting same to make improvements to my transformer design, hope to have the QEG-circuit up and running at full capacity soon!

    btw: The Cavity-QED waveguide drives the transformer which drives the tank circuit and so on...through the 3-stages of my Electro-dynamic Implosion pump. And its for energy and propulsion vs. communications, although all appropriate antenna rules do apply, wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the dirty bath water now would we...


    Robert A. Patterson
    Engineering Specialist
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  17. beenthere

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    I might suggest that lighting up fluorescent tubes is not a good indicator of anything but stray rf. I know an ex-ET who used them to check for stray emissions from the 33 radar cabinets on the Long Beach. Any rf will light one up.

    Tessla did try to broadcast power, but it seems that any results he demonstrated were cooked. Beware, though, Uncle Charlie may come snooping if you're putting out power anywhere near paid-for frequencies.
     
  18. XP3Scorpion

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    Ya, I just mentioned it as a verification that I am moving in the right direction, in part its the rf coupling that sets up the frequency dependent photon mode and atom splitting within the Cavity-QED waveguide.

    The parallel functions between the QEG-circuit and Tesla is uncanny...

    Robert A. Patterson
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    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
  19. bipin

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  20. XP3Scorpion

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    All I did was attempt to describe the sensations i.e. the felling of being over-heated, during the on-time of the QEG-circuit. I am suggesting that the rf or radiation dose might have been extremely low and thereby accounts for the over-heating sensations that I felt.


    Robert A. Patterson
    Engineering Specialist
    http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/
     
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