W10 forcible upgrade

Discussion in 'Computing and Networks' started by jmoffat, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. jmoffat

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    Today at work Microsoft started started upgrading our computers to Windows 10. This happened with out any intervention from a computer user. This forced upgrade must surely make any eula invalid. I want to join in any class action suit that comes from this gross violation of privacy. Anybody know where I can go to join the angry mob with pitchforks and torches? I say we give them atomic wedgies like the world has never seen before. Seroiusly this can not be legal. But then Microsoft has always held itself above the law

    Jim

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  2. Alec_t

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    If problems arise as a result of the 'upgrade' it will be interesting to see if someone sues them for damages in respect of broken systems, lost production, time spent sorting out compatibility issues etc.
     
  3. Papabravo

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    So far I have been able to repel the barbarians at the gate. I have blacklisted about two dozen KB patches and removed the ones that snuck onto my machine with DISM -- an awesome tool. Fortunately it was just GWX and the preparation updates. AFAIK Windows 10 has not been installed on any of my machines. I'll smash the hard drive with a hammer if any of them succumb to the virus.
     
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  4. The Electrician

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    I knew when I first heard of "push technology" that I wasn't going to like it.

    Can you provide a link to site(s) that discuss/identify the KB patches to blacklist?
     
  5. jpanhalt

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    I wonder whether networked systems with highly confidential information on them, such as attorneys, judges, schools, physicians/hospitals, and governmental, are being spared the invasion. While it may be claimed that the information thereon is not being accessed, the mere ability to access it is problematic.

    What if that hypothetical physician has an application, say a radiology viewer, that does not work with Win10? Years ago, I had a wonderful indexing program for scanned documents that worked on Win98 but not XP. It would have been a disaster if WinXP had been forced onto that machine.

    John
     
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  7. Papabravo

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    http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...agware-on-windows-7-windows-81-computers.html
    http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how...-windows-10-automatically/?PageSpeed=noscript
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/08/windows_10_upgrade_blocker/

    Look for other threads on Windows 10 blocking on this site.

    MyList
    KB2506928
    KB2545698
    KB2592687
    KB2660075
    KB2726535
    KB2876229
    KB2923545
    KB2952664 -- This one REQUIRES DISM to remove it
    KB2970228
    KB2976978
    KB2990214
    KB2994023
    KB3004394
    KB3021917
    KB3022245
    KB3035583
    KB3044374
    KB3050265
    KB3065987
    KB3068708
    KB3075249
    KB3080149
     
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  8. Papabravo

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    I know the sysadmins at my last employer vetted all patches to the corporate domain very carefully. I also know that the industrial PC's I made images for had windows update blocked for the same reason. When millions of dollars of production are at stake you can't have some doofus from Redmond mucking with the OS. Downtime on those systems is very EXPENSIVE.
     
  9. jpanhalt

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    See post #10 below. Something happened with the edit screen that turned my edit into a reply. Sorry for the duplicate post.
     
  10. jpanhalt

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    I reviewed the links you (Papabravo) provided. One of them made it clear that corporate accounts were not getting forced to upgrade as individual accounts have been. That was good to learn.

    Nevertheless, many professionals work from home. In fact, it is common for radiologists to review images on their home computers and produce their interpretations from those home computers. I suspect the same applies to most of the professionals I listed. I do not know whether those computers have the same protections as the ones at corporate entities have.

    When I was working, I kept a separate computer running XP at home that was not connected to the Internet. I only connected it when logging into work.

    John
     
  11. The Electrician

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    These things:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_technology
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Imaging_Format

    must be the work of the Devil. :rolleyes:

    Why must I use things like Adblocker, NoScript, Spybot AntiBeacon (https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/) to protect myself from all those entities out there that think my computer is their playground?
     
  12. nsaspook

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    Don't you have 30 days to downgrade to the previous version of the OS when W10 is either optionally or automatically installed?
     
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  13. cmartinez

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    I too installed GWX on all my computers running windows 7 and I haven't had a problem since.
     
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  14. Papabravo

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    My problem is the consumption of the bandwidth I pay for, to phone home without my permission.
     
  15. Alec_t

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    Invoice MS for the bandwidth amount. If enough people did that they might (just might) mend their ways :).
     
  16. Wendy

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    The last forced upgrade killed my wireless drivers. So after appropriate backup it is as full reinstall to Win7 for me, dang it.
     
  17. recklessrog

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    Win 10 tried to install itself on one of my notebooks that was running win 7 home, but the install failed. Since then, after a lot of hassle I manage to get it working again but every time I went to "update" it showed a red msg that said win 10 update failed, try again. By ignoring this, and checking for updates it would always say "downloading windows 10, getting setup files" but was actually only downloading normal updates.
    I downloaded GWX standalone version, (see post 10 by cmartinez) ran every option to remove anything to do with win 10, Made sure that previously hidden updates kb305583 & kb295564 were hidden again after clearing the cache, and so far, (fingers crossed) it now seems to work as it had prior to the failed update.
    This has caused me hours of unnecessary frustration and inconvenience all due to microsoft forcing something I never asked for onto MY property, NOT theirs!
     
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  18. eetech00

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    Hi

    Google "Windows LTSB Long Term Servicing Branch"
     
  19. djsfantasi

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    And what are we supposed to do, when a forced upgrade breaks production systems, and causes a loss of use for a day or more while said systems are being rebuilt? Let's say the entity thus affected is a highly visible corporate entity, for whom loss of their systems results in millions of dollars of lost revenue? Is Redmond going to pay that bill?
     
  20. nsaspook

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    Most business desktops are managed systems not running Home editions of the OS software. The W10 forcible upgrade should never happen in a corporate IT environment with enterprise versions of software. I still see the pester messages on some Pro installs but nothing will happen until a sysadmin approves of the upgrade.

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/30...hed-pcs-are-sprouting-get-windows-10-ads.html
     
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