US Survalence plane make emergency landing in Russia

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    I see what you did.:rolleyes:
     
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    The book Deep Black: Space Espionage and National Security by William E. Burrows makes a good case that surveillance is stabilizing because neither side thinks the other side is is hiding something or that they can completely hide something that can start a war.

    This book was published in 1988 but I am sure its history about aerial and satellite reconnaissance remains relevant and interesting.
     
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    It is, indeed, an excellent book. But the fact that everyone knows that everyone spies on everyone does not necessarily mean that incidents do not have consequences. Even when countries have treaties in place that require each side to facilitate surveillance and verification of the treaty terms by whatever means are authorized, be it satellite surveillance or on-site inspections, every country still has secrets that it wants kept secret and that the other side wants to know. That leaves plenty of room for conflict and, generally, neither side wants to either admit making a mistake nor look weak and irresolute in defending its national security. Usually it just becomes a war of words that runs its course, but that isn't guaranteed.

    But that's "in general" -- in this case it really is much ado 'bout nothing. The aircraft was on a scheduled observation flight with Russian observers on board and had taken off from a Russian airfield with the knowledge and permission of Russian authorities. So there was no reason for anyone to get tense and, by all accounts, no one did.
     
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    Perhaps they should have landed it in China being the Chinese probably built most of the parts for the aircraft anyway and would have had spares on hand. :oops:
     
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  11. nsaspook

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    I'm shocked, shocked that nations (or groups in general) are stealing secrets and trying to influence policy to their advantage. Did I say I was shocked?
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    This type of surveillance was permitted under treaties between the two countries. Everyone knows about it, except some dumb politicians from a certain party made a fuss about the Russians trying to resume those flights in the US.

    This incident should be shocking only to those ignorant people.
     
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    What's shocking is it was allowed. There are countless people who lost their clearance for mishandling classified material.
     
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    Drinking more Kool-aid? He was serious at the time he said it, then his handlers started walking it back and came up with the "sarcasm" angle.
     
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    In an effort to let this thread live a little longer I pruned a few posts that were making the thread political.
     
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