trying to use a transistor controlled by ntc 15k to switch on a relay

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  1. roadey_carl

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    Hey folks, Im trying to get a transistor to switch on a relay. the transistor is controlled by a 15k ntc. It works ok but as the risistance slowley decreases it triggers the coil in the relay very slowley so the contacts have a high resistance between them untill the ntc havs a small enough resistance to alow the foward voltage on the transistor to be full flow rate. Is there any way I can get it so the relay just works as on/off when it gets to a certian risistance? maybe some kind of regulator?

    Im a bit of a newbie with electronics so cheers for any help!:)

    Carl
     
  2. hgmjr

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    Can you post a schematic of the circuit you are using so that we can have a look?

    hgmjr
     
  3. beenthere

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    Sounds like a voltage comparator would work.
     
  4. roadey_carl

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  5. kkazem

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    Hi,
    What you need is to dump the transistor ckt and replace it with a single-supply comparator circuit with hysteresis to make the relay snap-on. These ICs are inexpensive and easy to use. I recommend the LM393CN. Also, unless you want to blow-up your transistor switch, you need a diode (a run-of-the-mill 1N4004 or similar will do fine) across the relay coil to prevent the coil inductance from generating a voltage that will breakdown your transistor and it works the same if you use a comparator. If you a google search for comparator relay driver circuits you'll find many. Also, the TI website (www.ti.com) is another great source of application notes on op-amp and comparator designs. You may not even need the hysteresis (positive feedback), but it only adds 2 or 3 small resistors to the ckt.
    Regards,
    Kamran Kazem
     
  6. roadey_carl

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    Thanks alot kkazem, you are a true legend!! I have no idea what hystereresis but I will have a read up about it and see if I'll find it any use to me!

    Thanks again thats been a real help :D
     
  7. Jony130

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    You can use one of those classic Schmitt trigger diagrams.
     
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  8. roadey_carl

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    Hey, I have fallen in love with the LM393N, what an awsome chip!! I just wonderd.... what is the "inverting" and "Non-inverting" all about? I've made the circuit I needed to make, but was just curious about what that ment?
     
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