Time/ Space: from Hawking back to Einstein / Minkowski.

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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When we wind up a rubber band, it takes time.

When we let the rubber band unwind.........does time go backward?

There are many things we can make.....then unmake. But when we unmake them.....time does not go backward.

When we do learn to unmake an omelet, time will not go backwards.

Time is the duration of velocity(movement). It's always positive and never has direction.
 
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Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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You speak as it is a certainty. Ain't no certainty but death and taxes. And death is a function of time, it comes to all of us eventually.

You are not a scientist, you are too certain. I don't think you are even good at theory, how can you adapt when you are sure you have all the facts, especially when they aren't all in yet. The fact is, we are still in the beginning of many aspects of science, but we are building a deep pool of experiments to draw on.
 

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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
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You speak as it is a certainty.
Ain't no certainty but death and taxes.
And death is a function of time, it comes to all of us eventually.
We speak the word "time" without concrete scientific definition.
We live on Earth and therefore we have only "gravity-time" as an absolute.
There is only "gravity-time".
The "time" is only property of Gravity.
Without gravity there isn't "time".
Different planets have different “gravity-time” and therefor “time “
is relative conceptions.
The discussion about "time" without Gravity is tautology.
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Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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And Philosophy without reality is not real. Start with the basics, we exist, we measure time (quite accurately). You may not understand time, but it does not keep me from using it for everything from radio and lasers to cooking a 3 minute egg. Humans can even agree on units of time, and account for drift due to gravity and velocity.

Don't get so hung up in your own head you can not tell what is real or not.
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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Time is simply another scale of length. It only exist because of field distortion.

If there was no field distortion, and thus a limit on velocity (c), all events would happen at the same time, and there would be no sequence or order of events.

In other words, there would be no time. All events would happen at the same, All events in the universe would complete instantly.

Time is just a velocity component. It’s a velocity factor.

Field distortion gives us velocity. Velocity gives us time. Time gives us sequence of events.

A sequence of events is reality.
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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Time exists where there is mass, even a stationary object has a flow of time. You do not have the facts you think you do, Unified Theory is still a dream, not a reality.

If you do have a theory publish, just saying it is an opinion without peer review, which you are not getting here.
 

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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
267
Time exists where there is mass, . . .. .
Time exists where there is mass . . . - gravity mass !!!
Without gravity mass the Universe is . . . . there would be no time.
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a) from Earth local, limited point of view the Time is seems
absolute, but from “outbox” point of view it is relative depends
of mass and speed
b) for light quantum with constant speed c time is “frozen” – doesn’t exist.
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Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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Creating words does not really mean anything. Ultimately, math is the language that is needed, and I suspect neither of us speaks it fluently enough to use it.
 

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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
267
Creating words does not really mean anything.
Ultimately, math is the language that is needed,
and I suspect neither of us speaks it fluently enough to use it.
Mathematics is a Queen of science but She is Queen only
because She married with the King - Physics.
Without the King the Queen can be a mad woman.
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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
267
Whoa. I think reading page three of this thread has wasted my time.

:)
What do you want expenses and compensation for your wasted time:
a)
b)
c)
Please, write brief and clear, long and complex arguments make me ill.
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( For example, I say that the Universe as whole is flat and infinite.
Why?
a)
The visual masses is only about 4% or 7% of all masses in
the Universe as whole and more than 90% are unseen
“dark masses” and “dark energy”. But they together (!) cannot “close”
the Universe as whole in the sphere and therefore the Universe as whole is infinite flat.
b)
According to WMAP the universe as whole is flat.
http://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html
c)
The cosmic micro background radiation
( in the past CMBR was called “aether”) has a thermal
temperature of 2.7 K, that isn’t a constant parameter.
This CMBR temperature continues to drop down . . . . to zero.
So, the Universe as a whole is a cold Kelvin space: T = 2,7K - - - - - > 0K.)
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If my arguments clear for you, then explain your position in my way.
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Kermit2

Joined Feb 5, 2010
4,162
What do you want expenses and compensation for your wasted time:
a)
b)
c)
...
yes, I have theory that I should be financially compensated by people who cause me to waste my $ valuable time.

I don't, however, insist that my theory is fact and therefore you must send me money. I accept that it is only theory and realize the real world may not obey my expectations and I probably will not get any cash from you.

Only TIME will tell.
 

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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
267
yes, I have theory that I should be financially compensated by people
who cause me to waste my $ valuable time.

I don't, however, insist that my theory is fact and therefore you must send me money.
I accept that it is only theory and realize the real world may not obey my expectations
and I probably will not get any cash from you.

Only TIME will tell.
Correct, you will not get any cash from me because I don’t buy “black cat”
 

Kermit2

Joined Feb 5, 2010
4,162
Darn.
I had high hopes for my theory.

PS. Sorry to learn about the loss of your sense of humor. Hope you realize no insult was meant. Just started by commenting on the many conflicting views being presented. Each of which, the presenter posited as if fact instead of theory. I have enjoyed the occasions in the past when one of your presentations led me to finding new and interesting knowledge through Internet searches. I promise not to waste further attempts at levity in any of your posts. I'll just read them from now on.
Goodbye sir.
 

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socratus

Joined Mar 26, 2012
267
Darn.
I had high hopes for my theory.

PS. Sorry to learn about the loss of your sense of humor.
Hope you realize no insult was meant. Just started by commenting on the many conflicting
views being presented. Each of which, the presenter posited as if fact instead of theory.
I have enjoyed the occasions in the past when one of your presentations led me to finding
new and interesting knowledge through Internet searches.
I promise not to waste further attempts at levity in any of your posts.
I'll just read them from now on.
Goodbye sir.
I lost my sense of humor after reading many scientific arguments
and theories that was written by physicists with PhD in the pocket.
I began to think that everybody behaves as serious as these theorists.
Best wishes.
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