Theoretical model of the early universe.

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  1. hp1729

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    http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=138484&WT.mc_id=USNSF_195&WT.mc_ev=click

    How do we create a theoretical model of something we don't know the nature of for sure? The model is based on the theory. How can it do anything but support the theory, at best?
    http://www.lanl.gov/discover/news-release-archive/2016/April/04.21-burst-code-probes .php

    So before observable matter formed the universe was all "dark matter and dark energy"? Doesn't the continued presence of dark matter and dark energy suggest a continuing process that creates this dark matter and dark energy, not a one time big bang?
     
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  2. nsaspook

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    We can test some parts of a theoretical model of the early universe with large particle accelerators. Machines like the LHC can recreate the conditions at the micro-scale we believe were present to some extent at the early cosmological scale and rule in or out some theories like Supersymmetry for how the universe progressed to its present state.
    http://home.cern/about/physics/supersymmetry
     
  3. socratus

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    in the beginning there were "dark matter and dark energy" . . .
    and these "dark matter and dark energy" created . . .
    “ghost particles”, “virtual particles”, “antiparticles”, “god particles”, “string particles” . . .
    some of them were created in the 11- dimensions and some of them
    were created in 27-dimensions. . . .
    but all these particles have one ability – they can be quantum of action . . .
    and when 14 billion years ago they began to act they created everything . . . .
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    Where did the dark matter and dark energy come from? Most of the mass of the universe is still that dark stuff. We find it everywhere in the universe, moving in all directions. Everywhere we look we find ancient stuff and new stuff. Old suns, young suns, old galaxies and new galaxies.
    Isn't everything "quantum of action"?

    Perpetual universe and the hydrogen problem. As stars form hydrogen is consumed in fusing to form heavier elements. As the stars end their lives the hydrogen is not recovered. Eventually we run out of hydrogen to form new stars. Stars don't form (as we make the star story) and life ends.
    Do we need hydrogen to form stars? Can't stars form from heavier elements?

    Do galaxies die? Where does all the matter and energy go to of all the stars that collapse into the black hole? Energy can't be destroyed, only changed. Dies it change back into dark energy and dark matter, starting the process all over again?
     
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    Energy can't be destroyed, only changed.
    (when the energy) Dies it change back into dark energy and dark matter,
    starting the process all over again?
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    big deal . . . .
     
  6. BR-549

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    Once a particle is disintegrated, it's gone forever.
    And there is energy loss from the universe on every EM emission.
    The universe used to have much more mass and energy.
    Only in a local charge field, with no emission events, can mass, energy and momentum be conserved.
     
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    "Once a particle is disintegrated, it's gone forever."
    The old particle is, yes.

    "And there is energy loss from the universe on every EM emission.
    The universe used to have much more mass and energy."
    Not "lost", just changed. Energy can't be destroyed, right?

    "Only in a local charge field, with no emission events, can mass, energy and momentum be conserved."
    The universe, as a whole, then must be a closed system.
     
  8. BR-549

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    A charge field does not grow out. It grows around. It is in a state of constant refresh. It re-paints itself every cycle. Energy resides in the density of the round fields.

    This causes the effect of inertia. This defines mass. Once this structure is destroyed, energy can not reside there.

    When you lose mass, you lose the home (cradle) of energy.
     
  9. socratus

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    Mass / Energy (E=Mc^2) can't be destroyed, only changed.
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  10. BR-549

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    That equation can mean anything, and that means, it means nothing.
    The E and M terms are purposely undefined so the equation can be manipulated to work.
    You will notice the only defined term is acceleration at c.

    The only condition that we know of so far, for these two conditions to happen ( acceleration and constant velocity of c ).....is in rotation.
    These rotational environments are limited in number. No new ones are being made. They are like apartment houses with resident managers. These apartments can fill up with resident energies.

    If you kill the manager (zero point energy, bust the structure), the energy residents must vacate, and the apartment can not be rebuilt.

    Every neutrino is the dumpster debris of an apartment house.

    Every neutrino is evidence of destroyed mass that can not be replaced.

    There are billions passing thru you every second.

    We know of no process that can reverse this action. It's one way.
     
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