The perfect World

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  1. Eric007

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    Hi All!

    Every day we trying to improve life quality by eradicating poverty, crime, deseases, conflicts between countries, terrorism,...

    Then how would you like this *perfect world* whereby there is 0% crime rate in the world, ie no rapist:D, no serial killer, no murderer, no gang, no weed:D, no cocaine, no meth,... (implying law enforcement people will have nomore jobs). Everybody smiling:) at everybody! No jalousy, No psycho, no stalker...

    A world whereby errbody is healthy, ie no toothache (nomore jobs for dentists), no cancer, nomore HIV/AIDS, no other deseases... (then there will be nomore jobs for physicians/doctors).

    All countries get along great, ie nomore armies needed, nomore guns, missile manufacturing, gun control -> nomore gun available. Nomore drama like the attached picture:D

    Nomore stripclubs:D, nomore prostitutes. Everyone with their pants pulled up:D and all women/girls dressed properly!

    Total eradication of poverty, war (nomore jobs for NGOs, UNPD, UN,...)

    Will this world be boring to you? If so then you are Happy with all the above?


    Thanks for your comments!
     
  2. loosewire

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    No more N.G.O."s and you eliminate most of the other stuff.......Loosewire the

    phi-loo-se-i -fer at large.
     
  3. Brownout

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    I guess the question for me is, do I prefer an overabuncance of these professions, or the current sever shortage? I choose overabundance.
     
  4. justtrying

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    Are you kidding, this world is perfect!

    for reference, read Candide... "since everything is made for an end, everything is necessarily for the best end"

    Most of the stuff has subjective definitions... what's poverty? I could go without starvation, war and pollution though
     
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  5. MrChips

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    Who's trying? It can't be done under the current system.
    The first step would be to abolish money.
     
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  6. maxpower097

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    Yikes your world sux. ;)


    I support single mothers!
     
  7. ErnieM

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    Why would you want to eliminate money? There are only four ways to accumulate wealth: steal it from your neighbor, pillage it from another land, enslave those who make it for you, or perform some service for others.

    The first three are called theft, feudalism, socialism, and other ultimately failed systems.

    It is only under the last system, called "capitalism," where even the poorest are sought after to be served and made happy as "consumers."

    Money is a vital part of the equation.
     
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  8. justtrying

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    well... under capitalism the poorest are leeches of society as they have no money to consume since money is the vital part of the equation. If you eliminate money, then even the poorest person can trade a service for something they need
     
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  9. Metalmann

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    Bartering would be the way to go.;)
     
  10. Kermit2

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    One mans utopia is another mans nation of boredom... :)

    I, even if healthy, would desire to have a doctor available for those times when accident or acts of nature cause injury...

    Also barter is no different than money exchange. One uses the items themselves and the other uses symbols of value that are exchanged for the items.
     
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  11. Eric007

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    Nice comments above but sounds like most people would get bored by this *perfect world* lol so you/we are all happy with the current system huh!?
     
  12. strantor

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    These sound like the perfect conditions for rampant reproduction and exponential population explosion; a story with a beautiful first chapter and nobody left alive to write the last chapter. All these negative aspects of life that you have listed, are naturally occurring checks and balances that keep the human population from expanding beyond what the earth can support. We have eliminated a lot of them to an extent, and I believe that we have already surpassed what the world can support, at least while maintaining our current standard of living. Drought, plague, famine, war, et. al. are all necessary evils that keep things balanced.
     
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  13. praondevou

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    Socialism didn't fail because it was a bad system. Just not applicable to humans...

    FYI:
    "A socialist economic system would consist of a system of production and distribution organized to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital."

    Capitalism on the other hand is working more or less but just becasue it didn't "fail" yet doesn't mean it's any better. Sad to say, it's closer to human nature.

    That it is possible to accumulate money and therefore purchasing power by doing nothing (speculating, lending etc) is so very wrong.

    You can work your whole life 12h a day for a mediocre salary and will just have enough to eat and to pay your rent. Just because your work isn't "worth" the same as others. Plain wrong.
     
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  14. MrChips

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    When I think of it AAC is the nearest example of a working social democratic system functioning without money. Money never changes hands. Nobody gains monetary rewards. Everyone shares and gives freely. Everyone progresses in knowledge.
     
  15. joeyd999

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    No...the first step would be to abolish independent thought.

    Personally, I'd trust a crook far more than someone who tells me he is looking out for my own good. At least a crook is honest about his intentions.
     
  16. strantor

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    This whole socialism/capitalism, utopia/dystopia thing has been on my mind a lot, plus perpetual growth and the thread a while back about "what would you do for a developing nation" (I'm actually writing a paper on that topic). I've run down just about every avenue of thought, and each one is a dead end. We are on a dead end road right now; we are going to exhaust all our resources in pursuit of perpetual growth, and perpetual growth is what our whole way of life is based on. Switching to socialism seems at first like it would be a good idea until you factor in human nature and realize that it would fail before it even started. Abolish money, abolish free thought, whatever - moot point. There is no cure, nor bandage. We are imperfect; we are a negative facet of our own system of checks and balances. We will implode, and then we will repeat the same mistakes. We have reached the peak of civilization, and not for the first time either (peak being defined by the downward slope on the other side).
     
  17. joeyd999

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    Boy, if I only had a dime every time someone has made this comment throughout just about all of recorded history...
     
  18. strantor

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    Exactly. That's my point. We have reached the peak several times. It's a peak, not a plateau.
     
  19. joeyd999

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    If you are implying "local maxima", times of great prosperity surrounded by times of tumult, I'll buy it...but only in the sense that the long term trend has been in an upward, positive direction.

    We all live like kings of the past today...with riches even they hardly imagined.

    If not for the transient personalities that arise from time to time who wish to convince us that things are too good, and we would be better off if we were to impoverish ourselves, just a little bit -- and for the good of all, of course -- those local down trends could be attenuated quite a bit.
     
  20. maxpower097

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    World sounds great but a world with no strippers is not world for me! :) I guess yah just gotta take the good with the bad.
     
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