Tektronix 422 High Voltage Supply Problems

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m2circuits

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Picked this scope up not working at the local electronics store in hopes of bringing it back to life. All of the the indicators, graticule illumination, and various lights work when it is powered on. However, there is nothing on the display. I'm assuming the problem lies in the HV supply since all of the low voltage rails check out. I did notice that the neon lamp on the voltage multiplier board looks a bit odd. I'm curious to know if neon lamps can fail, and if this could potentially be the culprit for the lack of high voltage.

Service Manual here: http://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/422

The lamp looks like something splattered inside, the regulator board has a neon lamp too, but it is clean and clear inside.
 

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m2circuits

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Are you familiar with all the scope front panel controls?
Yes, trigger set to auto or free run has no effect, intensity has no effect and neither does either of the channel position controls(both horizontal and vertical). The 'un-cal' lights come on when the cal knob is turned and goes off when the cal knob clicks back to off. The scale illumination works fine, and all the rails supplied by the power supply check out. Just an empty screen, no trace.
 

JoeJester

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Do you have another scope to trace signals?

Set the trigger to Line. Then look at the output of the horizontal....it should be a ramp at 60 hz.
 

AlbertHall

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The standard procedure for no display goes like this: (stop when/if you get something on the screen)
Turn brightness to max, select external X input if available, otherwise use 1mS timebase.
Check low voltage power supplies
Check high voltage power supply - generally around 1000V - skip this if you don't have the equipment to do it safely.
connect a voltmeter between the Y-plates on the CRT and adjust the Y-shift to get zero volts. If you can't do this the fault is in the Y circuit
connect the voltmeter between the X-plates on the tube and adjust controls to get zero volts. If you can't do this the fault is in the X circuit
CAREFULLY short circuit the grid and cathode of the CRT. If this gets something on screeen the fault is in the Z circuit.
Still nothing on the screen may be the very high voltage or the CRT.
 

JoeJester

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Did you measure the voltages on the CRT, except the hv and those over the capabilities of your meter? Do you have a hv probe?

Have you powered down, and tested the diodes in the hv circuit or to check for shorts when de- energized?
 

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m2circuits

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I just saw one sweep go by the crt while rotating the time/div know rapidly from side to side, haven't checked the list AlbertHall posted but I guess this means that the crt has power?
 

AlbertHall

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If you get that single sweep it is probably the trigger or timebase circuit. Set the time/div control to EXT HORIZ. Does this get you a dot (adjust X and Y shift). If so then that is confirmed.
 

JoeJester

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Take the scope out of auto and trigger with line.

You should have a horizontal line.

Although the dot works just as well.

Make sure the x10 is pushed in.
 
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m2circuits

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If you get that single sweep it is probably the trigger or timebase circuit. Set the time/div control to EXT HORIZ. Does this get you a dot (adjust X and Y shift). If so then that is confirmed.
Yes it does, but as soon as I touched the intensity knob the dots disappeared.
 

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m2circuits

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If you get that single sweep it is probably the trigger or timebase circuit. Set the time/div control to EXT HORIZ. Does this get you a dot (adjust X and Y shift). If so then that is confirmed.
It sweeps, very dimly, and touching the Intensity control makes it bright and then disappear.
 

AlbertHall

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That sounds like a hold-off problem - the blank time in between sweeps. On some 'scopes this is adjustable but I don't think the '422 has a front panel hold-off adjuster.
 
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