i'm supposed to put fuses as system protection for my 4.5KW heating elements @230Vac. i had it connected at star (3 heating elements each heaters) and i have 3 heaters.i rated my fuse at 25Amp.do you think that ampere is enough?
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System Protection - compute for fuse size
- Thread starter ritchell77
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How many amps? Amperage is not the only rating to consider.
Well, 4.5kW at 230VAC = 19.56 Amperes (approximately)
So, a 25A slow-blow fuse might be sufficient. You may need to bring them up one at a time, or two, then the last one, as the initial surge current will be considerably more than once the elements have reached operating temperature.
So, a 25A slow-blow fuse might be sufficient. You may need to bring them up one at a time, or two, then the last one, as the initial surge current will be considerably more than once the elements have reached operating temperature.
Thank you both for the response!
I am using IEC. My conflict now is when I did an actual measurement of each heating elements resistance I got 34ohms each? How can I possibly arrive to a 4.5KW heating element?Do you think that there's a problem on my heating element?It may not have been rated as to what it says?I mean to be at 230V and 4.5KW? If I will consider the actual resistance values that i got on every element then, I'm supposed to use a lower ampere rating for my fuse right? (With 34ohms I think I can consider 15-20Amps fuse).I would have love to use lower ampere rating simply because I have space constraint. With lower ampere rating of fuse, I can use a fuse-terminal block which is not so big.
I am using IEC. My conflict now is when I did an actual measurement of each heating elements resistance I got 34ohms each? How can I possibly arrive to a 4.5KW heating element?Do you think that there's a problem on my heating element?It may not have been rated as to what it says?I mean to be at 230V and 4.5KW? If I will consider the actual resistance values that i got on every element then, I'm supposed to use a lower ampere rating for my fuse right? (With 34ohms I think I can consider 15-20Amps fuse).I would have love to use lower ampere rating simply because I have space constraint. With lower ampere rating of fuse, I can use a fuse-terminal block which is not so big.
thingmaker3
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Were they at room temperature when you measured them? Resistance varies with temperature. If you know the material they are made from, you can look up the temperature coefficient of resistivity and estimate the resistance at working temperature.
Also, were the individual elements removed and measured by themselves? Or were they measured while assembled in the unit?
yes they were measured by themselves since i had them disconnected and yes they are at room temperature.shouldn't my heating element be rated at 1.8kw with the measured 34ohms instead of 4.5kw and my fuse should then be allowed to be as low as 10Amp?thanks!
thingmaker3
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If they are rated for 4.5KW and you can only account for 1.8KW, then you are missing some part of the puzzle. If you use too small a fuse, the fuses will blow.
Well, P = Esquared/R
So if E=230 and R=34, P = 1555.9 Watts (approximately) per element when cold.
You have three elements, so 1555.9 x 3 = 4667.7 Watts
That is your load when cold.
I = E/R, so since E=230 and R=34/3, your inrush current (when cold) will be 20.3 Amperes.
So, you could get away with a 20A slow-blow fuse. Alternatively, a pair of 10A slow blow fuses would work, but you wouldn't gain much.
So if E=230 and R=34, P = 1555.9 Watts (approximately) per element when cold.
You have three elements, so 1555.9 x 3 = 4667.7 Watts
That is your load when cold.
I = E/R, so since E=230 and R=34/3, your inrush current (when cold) will be 20.3 Amperes.
So, you could get away with a 20A slow-blow fuse. Alternatively, a pair of 10A slow blow fuses would work, but you wouldn't gain much.
