Size of resistor and transistor

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  1. FroceMaster

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    Hi
    Need to get this working.
    have an output 12v 20ma max.
    need to lid up 3 lights 3*21w
    how to connect the transistor, and witch ?

    Rgds.
    Sten
     
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  2. Jony130

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    Well simply use a MOSFET Irfz44n

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  3. FroceMaster

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    not an option.. the "ground" on bulps is connected as shown on schematic.
     
  4. Jony130

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    So use irf4905 instead.

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    Also you 12V power supply for the bulps must be able to deliver at least 7A.
    And also small heat sink for the MOSFET will also be needed.
     
  5. MikeML

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    I hope the power supply is rated for 20A; not 20mA
     
  6. FroceMaster

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    the input can only Draw 20mA. the powersupply is at least 300A.
    why at least 7 A ? 3*21 = 63w. 63/12 is not more than 5,25.
     
  7. Jony130

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    With R3 = 1K the input current is smaller than 12V/1K = 12mA.
    Also you can increase R3 to 10K and R4 to 100K
    But you can also remove Q2, R3, R4 , R2 but then low state (close to 0V) at the input will light the bulbs and high state (12V) will turn-off the bulbs

    Very good.

    Just as a safety margin.
     
  8. ronv

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  9. FroceMaster

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    desided to make it differently.
    will this Work, and not Draw more than 20 mA to the transistor ?
     
  10. Papabravo

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    What is the DC resistance of the coil?
     
  11. FroceMaster

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    360 Ohm.
     
  12. Alec_t

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    Your new circuit should work. You could even increase the resistor value to, say, 3.3k to reduce the current draw.
     
  13. panic mode

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    why do you have three diodes in series with the bulbs?
     
  14. FroceMaster

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    Use of diode . Yes good ? , really dont remember why. Its for use to turn on taillights on new cars. When deliver from factory there is no taillight in the day. Many custumor will have them on. I think it is so that left/right/licenceplate light still is on each fuse
     
  15. Papabravo

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    So the transistor will be sinking about 33 mA in the on state for 12 mA of base current. You don't need that much base current to turn the transistor on as has already been noted. You should have a resistor from the base to GND in case the driving source becomes disconnected.
     
  16. FroceMaster

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    ok if i chance the 1k to 3.3k and where to put the extra resistor. before the base resistor or between base and resistor. and what value ?
     
  17. Papabravo

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    Between the base resistor and the base of the transistor. Check the earlier schematic that was offered in this thread for the value.
     
  18. takao21203

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    automotive?
     
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