Single Rail Op Amp Input

Discussion in 'Homework Help' started by D1990, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. D1990

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    Jan 7, 2012
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    Hi there!

    I have been studying the schematic attached with much confusion. At the input stage I am seeing VB applying 4.5v DC offset to the Op Amp through a 1M resistor.

    Surely the voltage drop across this resistor would mean the Op amp wouldn't receive 4.5v bias?

    I Understand the 1M resistor sends the input to a default state when nothing is connected and I understand that the op amp needs 4.5v DC to allow full swing between 9 and 0v, but the way it is applied in this schem is confusing me.

    Can anyone help?
     
  2. praondevou

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    The input bias current is typically 150nA for this Opamp RC4558, so yes there will be a voltage drop over the 1M resistor. (max is 800nA though)

    If you wanted less voltage drop you could use Opamps with FET inputs.
     
  3. crutschow

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    Base upon praondevou's bias current values, the drop across the 1M resistor would vary from a typical 0.15V to a maximum of 0.8V which is probably not enough to significantly affect the op amp operation.
     
  4. Audioguru

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    The schematic uses opamps that were not too bad 30 years ago. There are much better opamps today.
     
  5. D1990

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    Oh ok, I think I understand.

    So the only current to enter the op amp is the stated bias current, there for the voltage dropped across R2 is V=IR. How does R1 affect this?
     
  6. Audioguru

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    R2 does not affect the DC. R1, the input impedance of the opamp and R2 attenuate the input signal slightly.
     
  7. Adjuster

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    R1 affects the bias voltage it because it is in the bias current path - it is connected to VB!

    R2 is in the signal path, connected only to a capacitor leading to the input socket. Capacitors block DC current.
     
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