Single phase to three phase transformer

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  1. eegriega

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    hello

    I have a hydraulic clicker press that runs on three phase. The workshop i have has single phase. What kind of transformer do i need to use for this piece of machinery? The motor is 1.5 horsepower and runs at 1430 rpm.
    I'm trying to find the cheapest way of doing this!

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  2. MaxHeadRoom

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    A VFD for the 3ph motor, Huanyang are the cheapest but not the ideal quality, Hitachi are a reliable second for a little more cost.
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  3. DNA Robotics

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    I have been using these for 30 years on motors from .5 to 10 HP.
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  4. MaxHeadRoom

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    The only thing with these RPC methods is the maximum HP is not usually achieved due to current drop in L3.
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  8. MaxHeadRoom

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    Yes, that the Huanyang unit, the manual is a little cryptic and virtually no support, but CHEAP!
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  9. cmartinez

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    Affordable.... or inexpensive... but as for cheap, guess there's only one way to find out! ;)
     
  10. eegriega

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    thanks a lot for the replies :)
     
  11. tcmtech

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    The best down and dirty design I know of that also lets you have full rated power of your three phase motor while on single phase is this. It's been close to 20 years now since I designed and refined it and I have built too many to count now. Most still running on original parts too! :cool:

    http://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/3-phase-converter-schematic-miller-system.100563/

    For a 1.5 HP hydraulic pump motor you would only need two ~15 uF run capacitors, a 100 - 150 uf start capacitor and a voltage sensing relay. All common items you can get at most any HVAC shop or online.
     
  12. MaxHeadRoom

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    I spent way more time than I should trying to decipher their twisted version of Modbus control that it also has.
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  13. cmartinez

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    I've been intending to learn (or use) modbus for a long time. But the truth is I see no reason to discard a standard uart network (be it rs232/485/422) if it is installed correctly and its protocol well and robustly programmed between devices.
     
  14. MaxHeadRoom

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    It was not the transmission medium but the S/W coding protocol, a form of Modbus.
    The system can be set for RTU (2x4bit hex) or ASCII.
    Actually I used RS232 from a PIC with a $3 convertor to RS485 to communicate with the VFD, you can use whatever you want for Modbus.
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