Simplified level probe

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by beaster, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. beaster

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    Jun 7, 2010
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    OK my first post went nowhere so I'll simplify the problem and then try to expand on it later.

    Essentially I'm looking for a way/probe that can indicate when I reach the interface of a binary liquid system (ie oil and water).
    The probe will be lowered through the top liquid/layer and would indicate when the probe enters the lower liquid. Of note the top liquid has a much lower resistance than the lower liquid.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated !
     
  2. Bychon

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    Are you saying water floats on your oil or you have electrically conductive oil, or something else?
     
  3. SgtWookie

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    I'd approach it not from the electrical conductivity angle, but the dielectric constant.

    Here's a page with lots of dielectric constants:
    http://clippercontrols.com/pages/dielectric-values#O

    The dielectric constant of a perfect vacuum is 1.
    The dielectric constant of air at sea level isn't much higher; something like 1.0000001123 or thereabouts.
    The dielectric constant of oils is in the 2 to 3-something range.
    The dielectric constant of water at room temperature is 80.

    So, if you had a couple of parallel metal conductive plates forming a capacitor, and they were used as part of the timing circuit in a free-running oscillator, you would see a sudden drop in frequency of the oscillator when the plates had water in between them instead of oil or air.

    The plates should be electrically insulated from the liquid. A thin coat of lacquer, conformal coat or epoxy paint should be sufficient.
     
  4. beaster

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    I solved my problem

    Unfortunately capacitance approach was not an option due to the extreme temperature and corrosive nature of one of the liquids. I simply used a voltage divider with an LED in parallel as an indicator. When I'm in the higher resistance liquid the LED is on and when I move to the lower resistance liquid the LED is off.
    Extremely simple and it works !
     
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