The background here is that we have a control board in production which, among many other things, switches relays on and off to control 1/3HP motors. We get all sorts of noise from this switching and I've been learning all I can about it lately. We made huge improvements in the switching noise with improved grounding and adding snubbers to the motors, but there's still a mysterious burst of noise when the motor stops. I thought the motor snubber would do the trick, but later realized it could be the relay's EMF we're catching. When I looked at the triac driver circuit which controls the relay, I was surprised to find no indication of snubbing, filtering, etc. other than a varistor preventing over-voltage situations.
The interesting thing is that there's a capacitor in the schematic, C13, which seems like it could possibly be there for noise reduction, and which is not included in our boards. The BOM makes no mention of it. I'm assuming the "DNI" next to the specs is for "Do Not Install?" And I'm assuming 1000p is 1000pF (1nF.) Would this capacitor, if installed, serve as a snubber, working in conjunction with R7 perhaps? Or would it serve some other purpose? Any guess as to why it would be drawn into the schematic and then later abandoned? I've tried to find info on how to spec snubbers, what values to choose in different situations, but I'm having a hard time finding anything that seems relevant to motors, relay coils, etc. Would C13 be an appropriate value to be snubbing the relay?
I'm really tempted to pick up a few capacitors and try soldering them in on a few boards to see if it reduces relay switching noise (there are pads on the board and everything - just not populated!) But if this has nothing to do with relay noise, or if there's some reason it might be harmful to the circuit, I definitely don't want to mess anything up.
The input to the opto is 5VDC. The relay power is 200-240VAC, with one leg always connected to the coil, and the other leg switched through the triac circuit in question. The schematic for this part of the circuit is below, along with a few images to help identify the relays in question:
The interesting thing is that there's a capacitor in the schematic, C13, which seems like it could possibly be there for noise reduction, and which is not included in our boards. The BOM makes no mention of it. I'm assuming the "DNI" next to the specs is for "Do Not Install?" And I'm assuming 1000p is 1000pF (1nF.) Would this capacitor, if installed, serve as a snubber, working in conjunction with R7 perhaps? Or would it serve some other purpose? Any guess as to why it would be drawn into the schematic and then later abandoned? I've tried to find info on how to spec snubbers, what values to choose in different situations, but I'm having a hard time finding anything that seems relevant to motors, relay coils, etc. Would C13 be an appropriate value to be snubbing the relay?
I'm really tempted to pick up a few capacitors and try soldering them in on a few boards to see if it reduces relay switching noise (there are pads on the board and everything - just not populated!) But if this has nothing to do with relay noise, or if there's some reason it might be harmful to the circuit, I definitely don't want to mess anything up.
The input to the opto is 5VDC. The relay power is 200-240VAC, with one leg always connected to the coil, and the other leg switched through the triac circuit in question. The schematic for this part of the circuit is below, along with a few images to help identify the relays in question: