Resistor to make heater

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rafaelluizmesquita

Joined Aug 8, 2013
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Hey guys,

I am trying to make a resistor made heater in low cost. Do any of you have any experience? It goes to the 110V in the outlet with a AC 4" fan. I am not sure which resistor to buy...

The plan is to use 4 or 8 resistors to reach about 100W without use the full power of the resistor. So I thought in use some 25W resistors or so... What do you guys say about it?
 

kubeek

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Is this supposed to be heating a room or something else? For a room 100W is definitely not enough, and for anything else it probably is way too much.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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The effectiveness of any heater to maintain a constant or minimum temp depends on the range of the ambient temperature.
The temperature range here is -40°C to +40°C !!
Max.
 

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rafaelluizmesquita

Joined Aug 8, 2013
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The effectiveness of any heater to maintain a constant or minimum temp depends on the range of the ambient temperature.
The temperature range here is -40°C to +40°C !!
Max.
Hey max... well... I expect that the box stay somewhere around 30C... I believe that the room temperature will be around 10C during the winter, because we will have an AC working as a heater to the room. The room is maybe 2.00m x 1.80m x 1.80m.

The room and the box will stay constantly closed, the only in to the room is the AC/heater and the only in and out to the box is two fans that makes the air circulate in the box...
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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100W is probably too much for a box that small, but anyway if you use a thermostat you can experiment with different wattage bulbs.
 

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rafaelluizmesquita

Joined Aug 8, 2013
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Just get a 100W lightbulb and use a thermostat. There are many "incubator" projects out there.
the problem with using a light bulb is that this is an light observatory. Everything needs to be nice and dark inside. So I cannot use a wooden box with a couple of lamps in it because it is just gonna blow up because of the high heat inside the box. So it needs to be some sort of resistor.

I am thinking in use 4 of those guys here: http://www.caddock.com/Online_catalog/Mrktg_Lit/MP9000_Series.pdf

The one with 30W 500ohms... and use a peace of metal to dissipate some heat.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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... it is just gonna blow up because of the high heat inside the box. So it needs to be some sort of resistor.
Watts are watts. The box doesn't care where they come from.

If visible light is an issue, you can buy IR heating lamps. They're more expensive than regular bulbs but throw off far less visible light.

The great thing about a lightbulb is the negative temperature response, meaning they increase resistance when they get hot, so there is never a chance of thermal runaway. They are self-controlling and purpose-built to dissipate the heat they produce.
 

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rafaelluizmesquita

Joined Aug 8, 2013
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Watts are watts. The box doesn't care where they come from.

If visible light is an issue, you can buy IR heating lamps. They're more expensive than regular bulbs but throw off far less visible light.

The great thing about a lightbulb is the negative temperature response, meaning they increase resistance when they get hot, so there is never a chance of thermal runaway. They are self-controlling and purpose-built to dissipate the heat they produce.
My only concern is that we already reproduce that in the lab and besides the fact that we cannot have any lights of any nature, IR or UV or visible... the light bulb will only get hotter and hotter increasing the resistance. Eventually it will just explode. I cannot afford mixing fire with the thing I do... So no chance to the light bulb I'm sorry...
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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You're seriously confused. [post #10] The lightbulb is far safer against the problem you describe than ... just about any other solution. That is why they are universally used for such things. If the box gets too hot, you need to use a smaller bulb and/or control it with a thermostat.

But you cannot tolerate light, fair enough. I'd stick the lightbulb inside a ribbed aluminum box, to shield the light and still allow heat to dissipate.

If you are dead set against a light bulb, you'll need to describe the power supply you have available, so that a heater can be chosen to run on that power.

Note that mains-direct projects are not allowed for discussion in this forum.
 

mcgyvr

Joined Oct 15, 2009
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Note that mains-direct projects are not allowed for discussion in this forum.
So a light bulb plugged into a wall socket is against the rules of this forum. :p
(of course you really didn't say it was a mains powered light bulb..but that could be assumed easily)

rafaelluizmesquita
To obey by the rules of this forum you would need to use a transformer or other type of isolated ac/dc converter for any project on here..

There is nothing wrong with using a resistor.. Not sure why wayne so against the idea but whatever.
Its totally fine and done all the time. However the fact you said you want to plug it into the 110v wall outlet is against the rules of this forum for safety reasons.

Make sure the wattage rating of the resistor is at least twice (if not more) what you intend to dissipate and go for it (safely)
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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So a light bulb plugged into a wall socket is against the rules of this forum. :p
Is it? I honestly don't know. Bicycle lighting falls under automotive modification, so I can't pretend to understand the rules, but I believe it might be. I thought about pointing it out but I knew that would expose my ignorance of the rules. :p
There is nothing wrong with using a resistor.. Not sure why wayne so against the idea but whatever.
I have no problem and have done it myself (although using a computer PSU as the power source, and a MUCH lower wattage). I was only reacting to the overly hasty dismissal of the light bulb idea that so many other folks find perfectly good, and ...
However the fact you said you want to plug it into the 110v wall outlet is against the rules of this forum for safety reasons.
...I'd much rather talk about a light bulb than advising the OP how to plug resistors into the wall. Without great care, things could go very badly. :eek:
 

mcgyvr

Joined Oct 15, 2009
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light bulbs are boring though :D
smoking resistors and tripping breakers is fun :p


The information contained in this post is provided by an individual who is fully aware of the safety dangers associated with mains powered voltages and the practices necessary to ensure safety. Please do not try this at home. ;)
 

tubeguy

Joined Nov 3, 2012
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How about making the box's bottom a square of metal with a light bulb
below? No light inside, heat rises. Thermostat inside to regulate the bulb.

Oh, and add a flashing LED to show it's working.

Wait a minute ... a digital temperature display :cool:
 
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