RELAY question for Christmas lights using 2n3904 NPN

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by StToonz, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. StToonz

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    Nov 30, 2012
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    Hey guys,

    so I have this "instrucables.com" schematic from a DIY project and SChematic1 represents that. but I was wondering...

    Exactly what is biasing this transistor? (im pretty sure its Emitter Biased)

    And Should there be a 1k transistor in the Area of Question?

    ** I didn't anticipate my computer would take a revers picture of it. but you get the idea. 10k on the base, led with 330 on it. im wondering about the circle. should there be a resistor on it and why?

    Edit: I attached another picture. will this work for my relay board? the female socket is going to be old dead Christmas lights. I didn't quite understand why all the loads would be connected. does this make the difference of potential needed
     
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  2. MaxHeadRoom

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    Jul 18, 2013
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    Looks OK to me, just that they are showing the cathode of the LED connected to the same point as the emitter of the transistor, maybe makes it misleading?
    But they are sharing the same P.S. common point.
    Max.
     
  3. JohnInTX

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    The catch diode across the relay coil is backwards but the rest seems OK. As Max says, the way its drawn is kind of non-standard so takes a closer look to see what's going on.
     
  4. MaxHeadRoom

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    I missed that one!
    Also the relay shows picked up, normally the contacts are shown in the OFF condition.
    Max.
     
  5. JohnInTX

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    Its a confusing diagram for sure.
     
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