rechargeable battery problem

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xeroshady

Joined Aug 1, 2012
11
hey guys, I'm designing a circuit that requires a rechargeable battery, but I have a problem.

Please see attached image.

When I disconnect the rechargeable battery, the LED glows. But when I connect the battery, the LED switches off, possibly because the rechargeable battery shorts the circuit. I want the LED to glow and the rechargeable battery to get recharged at the same time. I think the solar panel can provide enough juice for that. So, what am I doing wrong?
 

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ErnieM

Joined Apr 24, 2011
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Obviously the battery cannot turn the LED on. It's voltage is too low.

The way you have the diode makes the panel voltage higher then the battery voltage: you could try the LED back there.

You may need to add several diodes in series to boost this voltage back closer to it's 5V open circuit value
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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Xeroshady,
You must tell us the details:
1) What type of battery? Lead-acid, Ni-Cad, Ni-MH or Lithium?
2) How many cells in series is the battery?
3) Is the battery very old or is it dead?
 
Xeroshady,
You must tell us the details:
1) What type of battery? Lead-acid, Ni-Cad, Ni-MH or Lithium?
2) How many cells in series is the battery?
3) Is the battery very old or is it dead?
I was just gonna say, the battery has to have a voltage lower than what will run the LED. And when the battery is connected, it is pulling the circuit voltage lower because it will obviously over power the solar cell.
 

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xeroshady

Joined Aug 1, 2012
11
Audioguru:
2 Ni-MH rechargeable batteries in series. It's brand new, but I don't know if it's dead because it might just need recharging, and that isn't working out either.

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So, how do I overcome that problem? Use less powerful batteries?

Dodgydave:
Thanks, I'll check if it works and get back to you
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
11,248
Two charged Ni-MH cells in series are about 1.25V each which is a total of 2.5V.
A fairly dim old green LED needs about 2.2V so it might light but a very bright modern green LED (usually in a clear case) needs about 3.3V so it will never light from that low voltage battery. Yes, the battery reduces the voltage from the solar panel.
 
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