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Scotch-Irish or Scots-Irish may refer to;

• The Ulster Scots people, an ethnic group in Ulster, Ireland, who trace their roots to settlers from Scotland
• Scotch-Irish Americans, descendants of Ulster Scots who first migrated to America in large numbers in the early 18th century
• Scotch-Irish Canadians, are descendants of Ulster Scots who migrated to Canada

 

Always thought "Scots-Irish" referred to the early settlers of the Appalachian mountains.

 

Always thought "Scots-Irish" referred to the early settlers of the Appalachian mountains.

That too. It just so happened they were Scotch(Scots)-Irish. Interestig when you listen to Appalacian music, sounds alot like Scottish and Irish music.

 

I refer you to post #55 and #57 if you're still unclear who the scotch-irish are. Also there is a Wiki entry that goes into more detail.

I am unfamiliar with calling a body of water a, "border". In my experience, Ireland is bordered by the North Channel, Scotland is bordered by the North Channel, but Ireland and Scotland don't touch at any point. If the North Channel is a border, then it would seem that California borders Japan.

 

I am unfamiliar with calling a body of water a, "border". In my experience, Ireland is bordered by the North Channel, Scotland is bordered by the North Channel, but Ireland and Scotland don't touch at any point. If the North Channel is a border, then it would seem that California borders Japan.

I think the channel is smaller than the Pacfic ocean by about a few thousand miles. Either way, I refer you to my follow on posts, which are more accurately describe the regions I was refering to.

 

Weren't some Irish forced to move to Scotland by the British to rein in the Scot's. But it backfired. They joined forces and then both fought the British. If I remember my history correctly.

 

 

I don't make up the terms

I would be a little suspect of any reference that uses Scotch to describe ethnicity.
Actually the word Scotch is rare in Scotland, you are more likely to hear just Whiskey.
Max.

 

I would be a little suspect of any reference that uses Scotch to describe ethnicity.
Actually the word Scotch is rare in Scotland, you are more likely to hear just Whiskey.
Max.

If you have a more accurate reference, I'll read it. From the little I know, the reference sounds about right. As for the term, it's probably an Americanized version.

Actually, many references online use it, though I'm sure it's not the best term to use.

 

Also this (the author stresses there is no negative connotation intended when using "scotch-irish")

By almost any criterion, however, Scotch-Irish has been more widely used in the United States for the last three hundred years, and it remains so today. Two recent books have promoted Scots-Irish (i.e., The People with No Name: Ireland's Ulster Scots, America's Scots Irish and the Creation of a British Atlantic World, 1689-1764 and Born Fighting: How the Scots Irish Shaped America), but titles with Scotch-Irish have always been far more numerous.2 This can be shown by the holdings in any American library. For example, the on-line catalog of the Library of Congress has sixty-four books with Scotch-Irish in their main title, but only four with Scots-Irish, while at the Calvin McClung Library in Knoxville, Tennessee, the ratio is forty-eight to seven (six with Scots-Irish are by Mr. Kennedy). In many other ways the dominance of Scotch-Irish in the United States can be demonstrated.3

And this:

people of Scottish background were known as Scotch in the eighteenth century, so that term was brought to America, where it took root and flourished.

Source: http://www.ulsterscotslanguage.com/en/texts/scotch-irish/scotch-irish-or-scots-irish/

 

I must say growing up in the UK, I don't ever recall hearing Scotchman used ever.
Its akin to using Scotch pine for the Tree, instead of Scots Pine.
I always wince when I hear the former.
Max.

 

Ok, no more "Scotch" Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to pour myself some scots whiskey.

 

On an allied note, anyone ever used one of the mail in DNA test sites?
Max.

My neighbor did the one with IBM and National geographic. Seemed to fit pretty good, but he was shocked his oldest ancestors were from Africa.

 

Ultimately, everyones oldest ancestors are from Africa.

In geological terms, pink is the new black.

 

Ok, no more "Scotch" Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to pour myself some scots whiskey.

An ice cream sundae with butterscot on it? I don't think so. Scot tape? Nope

I'd never heard the term Scots-Irish until this thread. I thought it was a joke. Ironically though, I'd also never heard a Scot referred to as a Scotchman. It's always been Scotsman and Scotch-Irish.

 

If you don't want to watch the whole thing, advance a third to Maxwell
http://www.brucearch.com/videos.html#vid2
Max.

 

If you don't want to watch the whole thing, advance a third to Maxwell
http://www.brucearch.com/videos.html#vid2
Max.

Don't know why but; I can't get the audio to load?

kv

 

What sys are you using, have you tried the audio menu in control panel?
Max.

 

What sys are you using, have you tried the audio menu in control panel?
Max.

Running a Mac; it's a browser problem. I used firefox and the audio works?

I was using Safari before.



kv

 

I would be a little suspect of any reference that uses Scotch to describe ethnicity.
Actually the word Scotch is rare in Scotland, you are more likely to hear just Whiskey.
Max.

Correction MaxHeadRoom. Scotch is WHISKY anything else may be whiskey but not from Scotland.