Radio expieriment gone awry???

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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What radio station signals are you trying to pickup around 3.5-4MHz?

If AM1340 is the closest AM radio station to you it is going to overwhelm any low power RF signals regardless of your simple LC tuned circuit.

You are not going to have much success listening to SW on a crystal radio.
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
What radio station signals are you trying to pickup around 3.5-4MHz?

If AM1340 is the closest AM radio station to you it is going to overwhelm any low power RF signals regardless of your simple LC tuned circuit.

You are not going to have much success listening to SW on a crystal radio.
Some people enjoy the challenge of pulling in a signal at SW frequencies.

If a resonant length antenna doesn't have much total surface area - improvise, run 4 or more parallel wires spaced apart a few inches.

There's always the possibility of breaking with tradition and adding some gain - there used to be the Ferranti (IIRC) ZN414, that became obsolete and replaced by the MK484 - but I think that's also discontinued.

Another difficulty these days is getting hold of suitable detector diodes, silicon types leave much to be desired. Germanium diodes used to be easy to salvage from AM/FM pocket radios, but they're not as abundant as they were, allegedly Shottky-barrier diodes work just as well as germanium, perhaps BAT84 or 1N6263 might work - power ones like 1N5817 are likely to have too much junction capacitance.
 

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mbohuntr

Joined Apr 6, 2009
446
Mostly just trying to pull in any local DXers in that band. Something new to play with besides sensors and alarm circuits... I guess I thought it might be fairly easy..... :rolleyes:
 

vk6zgo

Joined Jul 21, 2012
677
A basic crystal set is just that---basic!!

Some very knowledgeable people do specialise in listening to SW on crystal sets,but these are quite complex designs,& they mostly listen to high power International Broadcasters.

Apart from these,there are very few Amplitude Modulated stations present on the HF bands.
If you want to hear "Hams" around 3-5----4MHz,you need something which will resolve Single Sideband & Morse (called CW for complex historical reasons),signals-------crystal sets will not.

In simple Receivers,your choice is now between Regenerative & Direct Conversion Receivers.
Both can give quite good results,with the latter usually superior,but perhaps not quite so "Noob -friendly".:D

I suggest you Google for both.
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
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bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,278
Hello,

The shown receiver is one of the regenerative kind.
Keep in mind that the receiver may "oscillate".
The trick with this kind of receivers is to have the input transistor just below the oscillating level.

Bertus
 

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mbohuntr

Joined Apr 6, 2009
446
Is that the reason for R3? Could the output be ran through the 386 amplifier for some volume control instead of earphones?
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
A basic crystal set is just that---basic!!

Some very knowledgeable people do specialise in listening to SW on crystal sets,but these are quite complex designs,& they mostly listen to high power International Broadcasters.

Apart from these,there are very few Amplitude Modulated stations present on the HF bands.
If you want to hear "Hams" around 3-5----4MHz,you need something which will resolve Single Sideband & Morse (called CW for complex historical reasons),signals-------crystal sets will not.

In simple Receivers,your choice is now between Regenerative & Direct Conversion Receivers.
Both can give quite good results,with the latter usually superior,but perhaps not quite so "Noob -friendly".:D

I suggest you Google for both.
There was a crystal set idea that I believe originated in America, the push-pull detector. Start with a twin gang tuning cap with equal sections and wind 2 tuning coils, each has its own detector which it drives in opposite phase to the other. The 2 cathodes join at the filter cap and the 2 signals are summed.

More sensitive - but IWHT any difference between the 2 sections would work against selectivity.
 
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